Fume Quest [Archive] - Lampwork Etc.

dlando1

2013-08-20, 7:42pm

Hi Mary
There are a lot of threads on fuming. I have learned most of what I know about fuming from them. Here is what I do. Ventilation is key. It sounds like you have good venting so it should not be a problem. I do wear a respirator in the first stage of fuming. I bought a good and relatively inexpensive one ($15.00 ) at Amazon. You can fume on tubes and rod of glass. I guess the first thing you need is the silver and gold. I get mine from ABR in IN.. There is an ABR in Az, but I would guess that whoever you deal with will have them. As of 8-20, ABR lists gold at $89.00 a gram. You WILL be disappointed at what a gram looks like. Never fear, you can make hundreds of pendants with a gram. Same with the silver. I also bought a quartz rod to hold the metals. You have to heat the hell out of the quartz to make an indentation. A lot of people think that a boro rod works just as well, but I like the quartz because it will never melt over the metal. To each his own. After you make an indentation, heat the rod and place a small piece of gold in the indention and carefully put it just under the flame. The gold will ball up. Keep the rod in an upright position or the gold ball just might roll off the rod and then you will have a very expensive gold splash right in front of your torch.
I then turn over the rod and repeat the process with the silver.

Now that you have your gold/ silver rod prepped, you can get started.

Easy start: Make a maria, and indent it with a frog or a vin pin (I think I saw that you have one).

Put on your respirator. To fume gold use an oxidizing flame. Hold the Maria in one hand and position it near the end of your flame angled inward. Bring the gold up under your flame about 3" from the base of your torch. As you heat the gold, make sure it does not angle down. if you angle it down, you may watch it roll right off the rod(Splash!@#$%^%$).

As the gold heats it will begin to throw off the fume. Rotate your maria to pick up the gold on the glass. How much you fume is up to you. For me it is a trial and many error process. When you are satisfied with the amount of gold on your maria, pull the gold rod out of the flame, keeping it upright until it cools down (about 10'). Now you can start filling in the indents from the frog with clear glass. Reduce your flame to neutral and add dots of clear over the indent holes. At that point, work the maria like any pendant. The gold that is not covered by clear will burn off. When the gold is only on your indent points, it's OK to take your respirator off. Work the pendant and put a back and bale on it. For most of my pendants, I use a black back, but Cobalt looks nice too.

To fume silver, use a reducing flame.

You can fume both on the same pendant. I usually start with gold, and switch to silver last.
Fuming with gold only will give a strong gold color.

Fuming with silver will give a white look.

Fuming with both gives a wide range of colors greens, blues, golds, whites.

Adding white to gold fumed maria's will look pink.

Here are some examples:
1st gold only,
2nd silver (mostly)
3rd a mix of gold and silver (this is my favorite pendant)

If you have questions about my directions, or if anyone else has suggestions, please add them.
Dave

Onekura

2013-08-20, 9:01pm

Hi Dave. I couldn't have said it better - and wonderful pendants!
Mary K: Imagine fuming like using a spray can. As long as you draw the fumes away from the air you breath you should be good. Almost all my work is fumed and it always turns out different. Fuming has it's own magic.

GlassAlias

2013-08-20, 9:50pm

@Dave - The second pic down in post #6 is very cool.

Just wanted to add that another good color to use to get pink with the gold fume is TAG's slyme. It tends to go whitish when its inside clear(well, it does when i use it) but it still retains a slight green tint which create a slightly different pink than plain white would yield. Its also easier to not boil.

deb tarry

2013-08-22, 8:40pm

Gold fume with tag slime sounds like a great combo.

dlando1

2013-08-23, 1:55pm

I have a customer that wants a heart pendant. Why not a fumed heart. I ordered a few rods of Slyme. I should get it tomorrow.
Dave

dlando1

2013-08-25, 11:06am

A few more fumes for the week.
Dave

Will.T

2013-08-26, 2:20pm

Really beautiful stuff! Thanks for sharing. Such cool effects with this technique. They don't allow fuming at the studio I go to so can't try this. Wish I could, it looks so cool.

Jackson River Glass

2013-08-26, 6:25pm

ok I have to jump on this fume train. I've wanted to try forever. I do have a question - just wrapping my brain around the process. So for the ones with bubbles, you are using the frog, but the others, you are fuming the maria and then laying dots on the flat maria right? And the one where the fumed bumps are seemingly making a "bowl" shape of sorts, are you just using a marble mold in lieu of making a flat back pendant? Did that make any sense? :lol:

Onekura

2013-08-26, 6:43pm

mixed fume - first one is gold fume backed with AP - second is gold and silver mixed - third is gold fume with a little dichroic and the last one is silver fume backed with a blue :)

PhatPat

2013-08-26, 7:37pm

Wow! Really nice work Onekura. I really like the blues in the last one.

dlando1

2013-08-26, 8:27pm

Onekura, you have been my inspiration for fuming, but that blue fume in frame #19 is just incredible!!!!! I start my vacation (stay cation) tomorrow, and I have at least 6 days where I can torch!

Susan, is the "bowl" effect you are talking about in frame #16, the first one? If so, it is a tube implosion. Tuber implosions have that inward look to them. If not tell me which one you are referring to.

Jackson River Glass

2013-08-26, 8:48pm

Post 16, first pic but also the blue one you were commenting on. Hadn't thought of tubing. Dang, fuming and tubing might be enough to send me running back to my studio to hide! :hide:

Onekura

2013-08-26, 11:57pm

Thank you guys - any help I can give - just ask
PS: Phatpat - the blue in the last one is a color rod (dont know which one) - the fuming is the white stuff - that is heavy silver - if you use a lot of silver you get white - but that looks good on a blue background. To get the blues just use very little silver . . . :)

Mary K

2013-08-27, 7:40am

Thanks Dave for detailed instructions. I will try to fume when it cools down a bit, I will need to get some things to try to fume though. Who sells a quartz rod that is already indented? What size do I need? Also I have some old jewelry that is gold and silver. Can I just scrape or nip some gold off of an old ring that is gold? Same with silver? I probably need the respirator now, I am just a few miles from the big Rim Fire in california and it is quite smokey here, the fire is very near my house and studio.

dlando1

2013-08-27, 8:34am

I'm sorry to hear that the fire is so close to you. I hope that the firefighters can get it under control soon!
ABR has a shop in Phoenix Az. They sell gold and silver. If you have gold rings I guess that you can use them. Cosmo says he likes 22 ct better than 24 ct. gold for fuming. ABR also sells quarts rods. I have one that is 9 mm. The indent is up to you. Heat the rod like hell and push w/ a tungsten pick. It took me a few tries to get it deep enough. You can use boro glass, but it will melt as you heat the metals. The metal can more on the boro, but it will work.

Good luck with the fire, stay safe.
Dave

dlando1

2013-08-28, 12:16pm

I got some Elvis Slyme and fumed a couple w/ that, just to test it. The first is a simple dot implosion with just gold and slyme. I got a pink, but it reminds me of the soap in a truck stop bathroom. Kind of kills it for me. The second is a frog implosion that I was hoping to see a little green behind it. Maybe just a touch. The third is Blue lighting on silver and gold. Onekura, can you remember what color blue you were using to get the effect in your last posting?
thanks for taking a look.
Dave

Onekura

2013-08-28, 12:39pm

Hi Dave - I am not sure - could have been Blue brilliant - the rod had no label on it, so I can't be sure :)

PaPiGlass

2013-08-29, 7:01am

Nice works, Dave, Onekura!!
Here is just a test piece trying to get many colors from fuming.

dlando1

2013-08-29, 7:19am

Papi, that is one beautiful pendant! You got a great range of colors! Can't wait to see your next offering(s).
Dave

PhatPat

2013-08-29, 9:12am

Wow. Nice Papi! Dave the third one down is very nice.

rjohn7

2013-08-30, 6:56pm

Can anyone tell me if Platinum (999) can be used for fuming?

Onekura

2013-08-30, 9:02pm

Many metals can be used for fuming, but it is not worth it. Most don't give you any good color and are usually highly toxic. Stay away is my advice.

PhatPat

2013-08-31, 9:16am

I've been playing with fuming and some air trap techs. This is one i came up with. It's cobalt then i pressed part in my vin pin. Then I sprayed a lil silver fume and then gave it a nice lens. Thanks for looking.
http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a568/Phragile/f68440630c0153987bf8664604a4076f_zpsd6d28762.jpg:k oolaid::koolaid::koolaid:

dlando1

2013-08-31, 9:19pm

I had a good birthday that included some torch time.
Dave

Onekura

2013-09-01, 1:08am

golden birthday, hey - -all the best - very nice pendants, love what you are doing :)

dlando1

2013-09-03, 10:48am

Well, it's the last day of my stay-cation. I had a few fume's from yesterday that I liked. Thanks for taking a look.
Dave

PennyLane

2013-09-03, 11:37am

Dave, You are soooo inspiring, Thanks, beautiful fuming.

dlando1

2013-09-13, 3:24pm

Beautiful pendant Onekura! A silver fume from me.
Dave

Onekura

2013-09-13, 3:50pm

I like yours too - seems we are trying the same technique and it always turns out different. This is the magic of fuming :)

giraffetech

2013-09-14, 5:38pm

can i get a tut for the things that look like the last pic?

Onekura

2013-09-14, 5:45pm

sorry, but I have no tut. But it is a simple fumed tube implotion. Kind of blow a bubble, fume it, add dots and melt the whole thing into a solid - add backing - done :)

dlando1

2013-09-17, 9:45am

A gold/ silver mix.

Onekura

2013-09-17, 1:30pm

Man, looks like you are saving your gold - - - nice pendant, love it.

chummsdoe

2013-09-18, 5:08pm

me likey the fume. lets see if I remember how to post a picture...

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/BoroByBibeau/picturesfortc/left.jpg (http://s1123.photobucket.com/user/BoroByBibeau/media/picturesfortc/left.jpg.html)

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/BoroByBibeau/picturesfortc/right.jpg (http://s1123.photobucket.com/user/BoroByBibeau/media/picturesfortc/right.jpg.html)

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/BoroByBibeau/picturesfortc/back.jpg (http://s1123.photobucket.com/user/BoroByBibeau/media/picturesfortc/back.jpg.html)

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/BoroByBibeau/picturesfortc/front.jpg (http://s1123.photobucket.com/user/BoroByBibeau/media/picturesfortc/front.jpg.html)

100% fume. lots of fun making this one.

Onekura

2013-09-18, 6:27pm

magic - a wonderful piece - I love the bottom part, those colours blow me away - awesome - thanks for posting this :)

Mary K

2013-09-18, 7:30pm

Wow Chummsdoe, that is one nice piece. Me likey your pipey.

PhatPat

2013-09-19, 9:49am

Chummsdoe! Oh my what an amazing piece! So i jus started doing honeycombs with silver fume. Here is my first go on simax.
http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a568/Phragile/0cb66c5fb2e3e9bff84c08f991750e3f_zps226cd73d.jpg

This one is silver fume but i used Chinese instead of simax . This one is my favorite i was able to flame strike . So many colors with jus silver. Anyways it got late last night so i am itching to get back to it later . Thanks for looking.
http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a568/Phragile/eaa953867fa156640f6718a06f3e440a_zpsa19eef2a.jpg:k oolaid::koolaid::koolaid:

istandalone24/7

2013-09-19, 11:31am

do you go by the name "Doprah Winfrey" on The Melting Pot?

me likey the fume. lets see if I remember how to post a picture...

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/BoroByBibeau/picturesfortc/left.jpg (http://s1123.photobucket.com/user/BoroByBibeau/media/picturesfortc/left.jpg.html)

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/BoroByBibeau/picturesfortc/right.jpg (http://s1123.photobucket.com/user/BoroByBibeau/media/picturesfortc/right.jpg.html)

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/BoroByBibeau/picturesfortc/back.jpg (http://s1123.photobucket.com/user/BoroByBibeau/media/picturesfortc/back.jpg.html)

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/BoroByBibeau/picturesfortc/front.jpg (http://s1123.photobucket.com/user/BoroByBibeau/media/picturesfortc/front.jpg.html)

100% fume. lots of fun making this one.

dlando1

2013-09-19, 2:15pm

Chummsdoe, I would have to buy two pipes from you. One to use and one, just to stare at and ponder my existence. That is a seriously beautiful piece!
Pat, your honeycombs look fantastic. I like the colors you are getting in the lower pic. great work(fun).

chummsdoe

2013-09-19, 5:59pm

istandalone, you found me out! "chummsdoe" is my secret alias for chilling with the bead ladies.

thanks for the kind words all! dlando1 shoot my a pm if you'd be interested in some of my work.

thanks again folks, nice looking stuff in this thread.

dlando1

2013-09-20, 8:15am

A few new ones. Onekura, in the last two pics, is this what your talking about in terms of termination points? Anyway, thanks for taking a look.
Dave

PhatPat

2013-09-20, 8:41am

Me likey all of them Dave ! Last one is very nice!

Onekura

2013-09-20, 2:21pm

Those turned out wonderful. My favourite is the first one. I think the colours are stunning. With termination point I was talking about the center becoming smaller to get the 3D effect. You got that pretty good in the last 2 pics. compliments :) Just wondering about the background colour of the first pic? What did you use there?

dlando1

2013-09-20, 5:00pm

Thanks Pat and Onekura. The back on the first one is Asian black. There is a slight blue tint from one of the spires of gold/silver that effect the overall look (I think). It is just a frog implosion that I let grow. I also liked how it turned out . Thanks for the termination point clarification, I'll work on that.
Dave

Onekura

2013-09-20, 5:19pm

I am just working on those thin white lines you can get with silver fume - on the second one I am going for that deep look :)

PaPiGlass

2013-09-22, 6:22am

Wow! Great pieces!

From me, another simple test piece for fume colors.
Two pictures of the same piece with light from different angle.

dlando1

2013-09-22, 11:43am

PaPi, that is a beautiful pendant. The dimensionality of fumed glass is what makes it so intriguing. Onekura, I saw you lurking around the bead gallery. That wigwag pendant is fantastic. Nothing from me this weekend, work,work work.
Dave

PaPiGlass

2013-09-23, 7:10am

Dave, thank you for your comment. And thank you for starting this thread.
It's always great fun to see your works.

bepnewt

2013-09-23, 8:36am

Great pieces, everyone.

PLEASE keep them coming.

-BEP

PhatPat

2013-09-23, 9:18am

Papi very nice! This is a silver fumed honeycomb pendant.
http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a568/Phragile/d9c59dd40a6b2b80742ac9d04e8e8ee6_zpsc30c53cc.jpg:k oolaid::koolaid::koolaid:

PaPiGlass

2013-09-23, 7:09pm

Nice color, Phatpat! Beautiful pink and blue.
Did you use only silver?

Onekura

2013-09-23, 7:33pm

this "fume quest" is incredible - you guys rock - this is better than the S&T. This is eye candy pure. Phatpat, you got some awesome colour there. PaPi, that pendant is just stunning. I would love to see a picture side on. Keep posting those goodies :)

PhatPat

2013-09-23, 7:50pm

Thanks Onekura and Papi. Papi i only used silver in the honeycomb.

Onekura

2013-09-23, 9:44pm

when things go wrong . . I wanted to do opposing spirals, but the symetry fell appart - bummer :(

dlando1

2013-09-24, 5:30am

Pat, the colors on that honeycomb are great. Onekura , that pendant looks fine to me, even if it's not perfect. I finally get a chance to torch today! Everybody have a great day!
Dave

PaPiGlass

2013-09-25, 7:28pm

Nice Onekura! It looks much better than just "perfect" opposing spiral to me.

From me, two flowers. The petals are made with gold fume over white.

bepnewt

2013-09-26, 6:46am

Fumetastic!

-BEP

MagpieGlass

2013-09-26, 10:49am

I love this thread. I've made some attempts but all have been too pitiful to even photograph. But the inspiration of you all is wonderful!!

dlando1

2013-09-27, 10:00am

some new ones.

Onekura

2013-09-27, 10:02am

looking good Dave :)

Onekura

2013-09-27, 1:40pm

it looks like gold on white is the flavour of the week :)

PhatPat

2013-09-27, 3:12pm

Very nice Onekura! That one looks endless. Dave second one and forth one r my favorite. Very nice!

bepnewt

2013-09-28, 8:36am

Lovin' all of them, guys and gals. And aliens.

-BEP

Kreszentia

2013-09-28, 11:17am

when things go wrong . . I wanted to do opposing spirals, but the symetry fell appart - bummer :(

Oh - oh - just found this thread - everything is wonderful but I like this one especially, it looks magic to me. If you want to get rid of the "bummer" send it to me to dispose of it properly (by hanging it from a necklace round my neck).

Kreszentia

chummsdoe

2013-10-02, 11:51am

I love seeing all the fume. Keep em coming people! Fresh piece from yesterday. 100% fume. Honeycomb is hollow so it'll fill in. Only silver in this honeycomb.

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/BoroByBibeau/picturesfortc/IMG_0767.jpg (http://s1123.photobucket.com/user/BoroByBibeau/media/picturesfortc/IMG_0767.jpg.html)

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/BoroByBibeau/picturesfortc/IMG_0769.jpg (http://s1123.photobucket.com/user/BoroByBibeau/media/picturesfortc/IMG_0769.jpg.html)

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/BoroByBibeau/picturesfortc/IMG_0772.jpg (http://s1123.photobucket.com/user/BoroByBibeau/media/picturesfortc/IMG_0772.jpg.html)

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/BoroByBibeau/picturesfortc/IMG_0771.jpg (http://s1123.photobucket.com/user/BoroByBibeau/media/picturesfortc/IMG_0771.jpg.html)

bepnewt

2013-10-02, 12:47pm

Nice job, great color.

-BEP

PhatPat

2013-10-02, 3:20pm

Dang! Chummsdoe sweet piece!:koolaid::koolaid::koolaid:

dlando1

2013-10-04, 10:39am

I bought a nautilus press. I'm not sure how much I like it. Here are a couple of fumed pendants. And one pendant w/ blue lighting. I think that the distortions would look better w/ dichro. Anyway thanks for taking a look.
Dave

Beadz Gone Wild

2013-10-06, 4:39pm

Just curious - how much fume of gold and silver do you guys use. I've tried some test pieces today and although I got a "Very light" green it wasn't very noticeable - you almost couldn't see it. Do I need to fume more?

dlando1

2013-10-06, 4:57pm

I would defer to Onekura's thoughts on this issue. He is the color king of fuming, in my humble opinion.

Onekura

2013-10-06, 8:23pm

thank you, Dave :) - when I fume gold, I fume until I get a nice noticeable maroon colour - sometimes more to get the gold-plated look. With silver - if you use only a little you get the blues - if you fume until you see a caramel colour you will end up with a white. To get good greens, I fume heavy gold and just a little silver. The biggest problem with fuming is, that you don't burn it off again - it is very heat sensitive. Also, I never got good colour on Schott glass - with Simax it works much better. I heard Kimbel works even better, but I have not tried this as I cant get it here in NZ. To learn it, I would suggest you fume until you see the fume on your work piece - can't have too much gold - encase it in clear and work it further out in the flame so you dont burn it off. I made many pendants and worked it too hot and all the fume disappeared. Also, when fuming silver lightly, I found if you hold it to a strong light you will see a blueish tint - that will give you the electric blues. It takes a while to get a feel for it - and even then I can never be sure of the outcome - that is the magic of fuming :)

Onekura

2013-10-06, 8:29pm

years ago I made a simple tut about gold fuming - have a look - you will see how heavy I fumed the gold . . . : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6I3mE1ISuU
The tut is about as basic as can be - I should really take it off . . .

Onekura

2013-10-06, 8:33pm

and I forgot to mention that I use tanked oxygen - I heard people have problems fuming when using concentrators - something to do with the purity of the oxygen

marcel

2013-10-07, 9:52am

another fume bear :wink:
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Beadz Gone Wild

2013-10-07, 4:38pm

PaPiGlass

2013-10-08, 5:59pm

Nice bear! Marcel. Many beautiful colors. I love your bears.
And thank you for the tips, Onekura.
I usually use concentrators for fuming, but I may as well try tanked O2.

From me, a fume pendant. White lines on backing is also silver fumed.
The front colors of gold and silver fume looks faint over this whitish back.
It is interesting in its own way, but I may as well try color glass on other occasion.

Onekura

2013-10-08, 9:04pm

PaPi - I can see how much work went into this pendant - the background looks like a fumed reticello - wonderful - the front has good colour and the perfect shape - it is 2 wonderful pendants in one. I would love to see a photo of it taken in the sun - it must have the most awesome sparkle. :)

Onekura

2013-10-08, 9:39pm

Thanks so much for the tip Onekura. I definitely was not fuming enough with the gold - will try again this weekend and we shall see what we shall see:) Planning a trip to New Zealand next year - will definitely look you up

looking forward to that :)

and if I might add . . when you fume with gold (kind of sounds expensive), but in my opinion fuming is way cheaper than buying coloured rods. That is the reason why I fume almost exclusively. You use so little - I have the tiniest piece of gold on my 8mm rod and that will fume about 10 pendants. I bought a 1.5g goldbar in Germany 4 years ago (at the time 69 Euro) and I fumed hundreds of pendants with it - - and I still got some of it. Silver is way cheaper still - I use a silver coin which cost about $10. So go for it - dont save your gold, use it!!!! In the picture you see my fuming rods - gold on the left - silver on the right. I attached the picture to show how much I use. Those rods are standard 8mm Simax and will fume 10-15 pendants. In the second pic you see whats left of my goldbar and silver coin after years of fuming. The 3rd pic shows my goldbar 3 years ago - and yes, it got smaller, but it is not lost. We make beautiful things out of it and we have fun!

EchoTantuli

2013-10-08, 9:47pm

That is so incredibly crazy cool!!

PaPiGlass

2013-10-10, 3:04am

Thank you for your comment, Onekura. It's cloudy around here these days and I took the picture by the fluorescent light over my torch head marver.
I would like to add one more picture taken under the same condition. I think this would also look better under the sun light. But anyway...

PhatPat

2013-10-10, 9:20am

Nice!

dlando1

2013-10-11, 10:16am

Still trying to get the blues to come out. Almost got it on the second one.
Great glass PaPi!

dlando1

2013-10-14, 9:20am

Just one fume from yesterday.
Dave

GlassAlias

2013-10-16, 8:39pm

Thought I'd share a flower I was able to make this week. All fume with black backing.

dlando1

2013-10-20, 12:33pm

A couple of fumes.

Onekura

2013-10-21, 10:43pm

Finally, I got the perfect blue. This is the "electric blue" I always wanted to get. I could try a thousand times and not get it again. This is "my blue"! This one is not for sale!

dlando1

2013-10-22, 3:19am

Damn Burn, that is beautiful. .

dlando1

2013-10-25, 10:28am

A couple of fumes from me.
Dave

PaPiGlass

2013-10-26, 7:51pm

Onekura, nice blue!
Dave, interesting effect especially in the first one!

I put an opal.

Bunyip

2013-10-28, 4:18pm

Beautiful fume work. It's a shame I'm so busy working on getting stuff for a show this Saturday... I seem to remember one of you guys had a couple tutorials up on their personal website on how to make cool twisted fume pendants...Maybe next week ;) In the meantime keep up the good work!

jhamilton117

2013-10-29, 11:31am

Anyone have links to those tuts?

dlando1

2013-10-29, 12:55pm

Hey Jeremy, On page 3 of this thread, Onekura posted a YouTube vid #84. Also check out his post #83 for applying fume to glass. He is a master, just check out his glass.
Dave

Onekura

2013-10-29, 12:56pm

Onekura

2013-10-29, 1:02pm

and the rest of it . . .

Onekura

2013-10-29, 1:06pm

for a cool effect, fume one side of the paddle with silver and the other with gold - looks nice :)

Bunyip

2013-10-30, 5:13am

Yep, Bernard, that's the one I was thinking. I made one of those, it came out very nice. :)

Thanks for reposting.

Bunyip

2013-10-30, 5:32am

Just went back through this thread, those honeycombs are amazing too. I've never had any luck with that tech. :| I've tried fuming the inside and the outside and I never have had any luck. I need to ambush a 'comb master and make them demo, I'm sure that I'm doing something stupid that ruins them.!

bepnewt

2013-10-30, 7:13am

Bunyip, if you are talking about my old, very simple tut, it is not there anymore because I closed down my website. I can post it here, but it is very poor and only for total beginners. But the pendant actually looked good and has a nice sparkle in the sun :)

I think it looks great. A beginner like myself would love to have a pendant come out that nicely.

I made a quick page for the tutorial here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18735195/Images/glass/Tutorials/SimpleFume/FumedPendantTutorial.html

If you want me to take it down, OneKura, let me know and I will. I put a link to your Facebook page at the top.

-BEP

Onekura

2013-10-30, 10:59am

thank you bep - I am all happy with that ;)

dlando1

2013-11-01, 12:12pm

Hey PaPi, did you fume that pendant in multiple stages? It is beautiful. Here are a few that I just pulled out of the kiln.
Dave

PaPiGlass

2013-11-02, 3:53am

Dave, nice works! I like the second one best.
And about my pendant, yes, it consists of two parts. One is raticello (or opposing spiral. I don't know the exact name for that) with heavy silver fume and the other is flower like part with heavy gold fume and a bit of silver fume. I fumed gold first and place 6 dots around the center and fumed silver before placing other dots. After I finished the both parts, I put them together with an opal between them.

dlando1

2013-11-02, 1:58pm

Hi PaPi, Did you make two separate pendants and then joined them? Anyway that is beautiful pendant. Here are a couple from yesterday.
Dave

deb tarry

2013-11-03, 8:29am

Wow you guys rock the fuming.

Bunyip

2013-11-04, 7:29am

My tubing implosion game is SO off... I can't get nice blooms or "shark teeth". It's been so long since I made them and for some reason it's NOT like riding a bicycle for me. Practice practice practice.

Onekura

2013-11-04, 9:35pm

a little gold and silver fume from me

dlando1

2013-11-05, 8:20am

OK Bernard, now you have to make a fumed dragons eye in a compression flower. Oh yeah, and w/ an opal in it, while hopping on one foot. Nice pendant by the way.
Dave

bepnewt

2013-11-05, 9:16am

OK Bernard, now you have to make a fumed dragons eye in a compression flower. Oh yeah, and w/ an opal in it, while hopping on one foot. Nice pendant by the way.

Using only a Bic lighter for a torch.

Nice fumes, all.

-BEP

Onekura

2013-11-05, 10:49pm

I might be able to handle the eye-implotion (havn't got an opal), but the Bic lighter . . .
Anyways thanks for the comments. I have been busy doing those eyes and my idea was to do an eye with scales arround it. Doing scales proved to be a challange. I have many eyes with all sorts of scales looking at me. I dedicated one bottle of oxy to make eyes and it has spiraled off to many new ideas. Here is another one with fumed scales - front and back - trying to get that reptile look :)

bepnewt

2013-11-06, 8:19am

Gorgeous. Thanks for sharing.

-BEP

Celestial B

2013-11-06, 12:01pm

Sweet green metallic with the fuming for the scales. :)

PhatPat

2013-11-06, 7:58pm

Dang Onekura thats nice! Me likey!

deb tarry

2013-11-07, 12:04am

Holy Bernard the scales are great.

dlando1

2013-11-07, 12:09pm

Some new fumes.

Onekura

2013-11-08, 12:16am

OK Bernard, now you have to make a fumed dragons eye in a compression flower. Oh yeah, and w/ an opal in it, while hopping on one foot. Nice pendant by the way.
Dave

Hi Dave - this one is for you - minus the opal (didn't have one) and I am hopping on 1 foot, because I got some phoenix palm spike in my foot and it is super big and painful. The eye takes the view of the flower and the whole thing does not work, but I thought . . . for the fun of it . . . :)

dlando1

2013-11-08, 7:30am

Bravo! My hat's off to you. That is too funny! Sorry to hear about your foot. Hope you're up and hopping on both feet soon.

Onekura

2013-11-08, 10:22pm

Thank you very much, but the whole thing was for fun only. I thought about it and just wanted to give it a try. This should not even be in here as it is not fumed, so take it as a joke please :)

bepnewt

2013-11-11, 9:32am

Thank you very much, but the whole thing was for fun only. I thought about it and just wanted to give it a try. This should not even be in here as it is not fumed, so take it as a joke please :)

Now, you just need to etch "BIC" on the side of your torch! Glad you had fun with the joke.

I wish I had something to add to this fume thread. I have the chunk of silver, I just don't have any ventilation so I'm not getting the silver anywhere near the flame.

-BEP

dlando1

2013-11-18, 9:23am

Some from the weekend. The last two are the same. One shot inside, one outside.
Dave

dragonlite

2013-11-18, 2:35pm

ok I have a question. I am not getting much colors when I fume.... I use silver. Are you guys fuming them adding something on top of the fume? every once in a while I will get a yellow or slight smoke tint but that is only when I fume really heavy and them swirl it all up. can anyone point me to some good tuts or videos???

bepnewt

2013-11-18, 2:39pm

What is the purity percentage on the silver you are using? Are you accidentally burning it off when you're done the fume?

Here's an older thread here on LWE:
http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1200

-BEP

dragonlite

2013-11-18, 2:42pm

I bought a bunch of 99 pure silver coins (the walking liberties) I use a reducing flame until I am sure that the fume is encased or covered. but when all is said and done most of the time it is gone..... here is an example I fumed last night. this pendant was suppose to have a fumed symbol inside. it all but disappeared ???? just an empty pendant now.
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What is the purity percentage on the silver you are using? Are you accidentally burning it off when you're done the fume?

Here's an older thread here on LWE:
http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1200

-BEP

dlando1

2013-11-18, 3:34pm

Hey Dragonlite, when you ask if we are putting anything on top of the fume, do you mean anything other than clear glass (Dots, lines, etc.). If you are fuming that heavy, you should get really white looking implosions. The lighter you go, the less of this effect you get. This is an example of just silver fume. Hope this helps.
Dave

dragonlite

2013-11-18, 4:01pm

Nice piece dlando1! I have been trying clear dots lines etc I have even tried other striking colors... I am at a total loss!

Onekura

2013-11-18, 5:15pm

you might be working it too hot-even encased you can still burn it out and be left with an empty pendant. Try working further out from the torch and don't get too hot. Once the silver is encased, it is not sensitive to flame chemistry any more. But when you fume it on, have your work piece nice and hot and fume until you see a caramel looking tint. Don't forget, you are actually burning the silver to get fume - maybe use a bigger flame?

Onekura

2013-11-18, 5:15pm

and nice fumes, Dave :)

Celestial B

2013-11-18, 6:08pm

I have been lamp working for about 4 months now. I did this Sea Turtle inspired by this thread and MaryK's flower implosion turtle. Hopefully the picture made it. It is my first try to post a pic. This was done with .999 silver wire. The red is some frit showing through from the turtle's belly side. My original fumed rod was amber/carmel colored before adding the clear to protect. Are the ambers and greens and blues I am seeing in pieces on this thread from combining silver and gold?

Onekura

2013-11-18, 7:19pm

silver has a wide range of colours. Fumed lightly it makes a blue - fumed heavy ends up being white. When you mix silver and gold fume you get greens - with less or more you can almost get the whole spectrum of colours - that's why we are so over the moon, when the colours turn out great - it does not always happen the way we want. Also, stretching or compressing changes the outcome. Silver fume on the inside of a tube melted in will give you different colours than outside work, because when you melt the tube to solid the fume gets compressed and looks almost red with greens and blues - look at post #17 - there you see pretty much every colour you can get from silver fume.

Celestial B

2013-11-18, 8:02pm

Thanks for the tip Bernhard. I did not realize compression could also change the color. I'm not sure about post #17. Post #46 of the fume worked 'spoon' shows a pretty wide spectrum of color. I have not played with tube yet.

dragonlite

2013-11-18, 9:37pm

I tried it again and before I put it into the kiln I caught a glimpse of a bluish color. :) I turned my oxy way down and fumed the crud out of it, placed a few clear dots around imploded just a bit and backed it with onyx black. :) I think that worked some for me but time will tell when I pull it out of the kiln. I will post pics either way in the morning. :)

Onekura

2013-11-18, 10:27pm

can't wait to see them - we have you fuming like a pro in no time :)

Onekura

2013-11-18, 10:32pm

I have a Barracuda from Bethlehem and when I fume silver, I use the center flame only and I adjust my flame to the very center flame about 18mm long and the ring of flames arround it to about 5-6mm - if this helps. For gold I have my flame hissing with oxy. Hope this makes sense - if not I can take pictures of my different flame settings.

Bunyip

2013-11-19, 5:38am

I'd like to see what you're doing, Bernhard. I use much bigger flames for fuming silver than you've described, based on watching several videos. Whatever you're doing is working well though, maybe I can learn something!

dragonlite

2013-11-19, 7:28am

I am working on a Scorpion with concentrators, didn't think about using the inner fire like that. Might see if that makes a difference for me. ?.

Here are the 2 that I did last night still not getting something right. ?
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144056

Onekura

2013-11-19, 12:19pm

it is very hard to take a photo of a flame, but I hope you can see it. This is the flame I use for silver fuming. You can see the center flame being way longer than the ring arround it. It is a reducing flame and it works for me :)

marcel

2013-11-19, 12:52pm

i use the same flame ;)
here is a fume pendant i made today.

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Onekura

2013-11-19, 1:07pm

awesome reti Marcel - would love to see a bigger picture of it

Bunyip

2013-11-19, 2:24pm

Ah, so you were describing the candles (or at least that's what I've always called them). For some reason that didn't process for me. I thought you meant you were using a little itty bitty tiny flame! I think I will adjust to try for a flame more like the one you've shown and see if I get better results with silver. I'm happy with my gold fuming, but who knows I may have something to learn there too!

Thanks.

PhatPat

2013-11-19, 2:38pm

There r some great threads on talk glass.com. There r so many different techs when using just silver lots of info over there.

marcel

2013-11-20, 3:18am

Thank you Bernhard ;) here is a close up.

http://s10.imagestime.com/out.php/i900759_PICT1143.jpg (http://www.imagestime.com/show.php/900759_PICT1143.jpg.html)

dlando1

2013-11-20, 7:12am

That is beautiful Marcel!

Mary K

2013-11-20, 8:06am

That is a beauty Marcel, and those last fumed pendants you made Dave weren't too bad either, very nice. You are so fortunate to have Bernhard here to help you all. I think I read some where that concentrators are not the best for fuming?

dlando1

2013-11-20, 8:38am

Thanks Mary. I have two concentrators, a 15 and a 20. It seems to work OK for me. Now if I could just figure out ratticello I would be a very happy man.

bepnewt

2013-11-20, 8:44am

Thanks Mary. I have two concentrators, a 15 and a 20. It seems to work OK for me. Now if I could just figure out ratticello I would be a very happy man.

Maybe this will help:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18735195/Images/misc/RatCello.jpg

istandalone24/7

2013-11-20, 8:54am

fuming with an oxycon is no big deal, easy peasy. i think maybe you're thinking of using the heavy silver colors (amper purples, blue moon, amazon's etc) it's hard to get an oxidizing enough flame to keep the haze off.

Mary K

2013-11-20, 9:27am

Maybe this will help:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18735195/Images/misc/RatCello.jpg

Oh lord that took me a min to "get" that picture, how cute!
kind of reminds me of Bernhards' avatar!
I love that picture!

PhatPat

2013-11-20, 9:45am

Dlando, Bashi Ali sales a tutorial on etsy.

dlando1

2013-11-20, 10:45am

Thanks Brian, it's going to be smooth sailing from now on! Made my day! I've tried Bashi tut. I am not going something right in there someplace. I'm not holding my mouth right or something. This as close as I have ever got, and it isn't even close.

istandalone24/7

2013-11-20, 12:15pm

hell yes that's close....very nice!
retti isn't easy...if it was we'd all do it. you are on the right track so far as i can tell.

Onekura

2013-11-20, 1:22pm

and why did you not fume that reti, Dave? Love the "rati-cello". And Marcel, thank you for the close up - wonderful pendant. Mary, thank you for the nice comment :)

dlando1

2013-11-20, 2:21pm

That is an old pendant. I need to try again. Practice, practice, practice!

Onekura

2013-11-20, 7:00pm

I thought of showing how I fume silver. Sometimes it is better to see a picture. Sorry, I couldn't take photos of me actually doing it, but I need one hand to hold the fuming rod and the other to hold the work piece - so no hand free to hold a camera. But even so it might help someone to make sense of it all. :)

Onekura

2013-11-20, 7:14pm

for gold fuming I adjust my flame so that all candles are about 8mm long. Turn up the oxy - just when it starts hissing slightly - that is my sweet flame for gold fuming. Again I hold my fuming rod right at the end of the candles and my work piece would be at the same spot as for silver fuming ( about 15cm from the face of the torch).
The work piece should be hot, but not glowing.

Celestial B

2013-11-21, 4:18am

Thanks for the picture enhanced tips Onekura. :)

marcel

2013-11-24, 6:54am

Thank you everybody ;)
Here are some more fume adventures!

http://s10.imagestime.com/out.php/i901755_PICT1146.jpg (http://www.imagestime.com/show.php/901755_PICT1146.jpg.html)

http://s10.imagestime.com/out.php/i901756_IMG1396.jpg (http://www.imagestime.com/show.php/901756_IMG1396.jpg.html)

Beadz Gone Wild

2013-11-24, 8:46am

With all the tips from everyone here I finally did my first fumed pieces that I'm really happy with.
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296634
The first is strictly silver and the second is strictly gold. I'm definitely going to play with this now that I have a "feel" for what is going on and what I'm doing.
Thank you to all you pros on guiding me.
________________________
Roberta

marcel

2013-11-24, 9:08am

Beautiful pendants! they look good!

Beadz Gone Wild

2013-11-24, 9:21am

Thanks Marcel,
I started pretty simple but looking forward to lots of experimenting.
_______________________
Roberta

dlando1

2013-11-24, 9:43am

Nice pendants Roberta! I really like the first one. Too cold to play in the studio, maybe next week.

Mary K

2013-11-24, 9:53am

It's cold in my studio too! That's how I like it! Then I can heat it up.
Going out there now to do just that.
Nice pendants Roberta! beautiful.
and lovely work from Marcel as usual.
Marcel your pieces are always so classic, love your work.

dlando1

2013-11-24, 11:17am

It's 28' and breezy here in Hooterville. My studio space is un-insulated. Like that Thermos joke. It keeps hot things hot and cold things cold. But how do it know? Pleasant torching.

Marcel, it looks like you captured the olympic flame! Very nice.

Onekura

2013-11-24, 1:28pm

I love your pendants, Roberta - well done! Can't wait to see more :)

Beadz Gone Wild

2013-11-24, 3:41pm

Thanks, I am really happy with them. I couldn't have done it without everyone's tips. Your comments on gold fuming really helped.
_____________

Roberta

Onekura

2013-11-24, 9:27pm

inside the fume - just a closeup My new avatar :)

Beadz Gone Wild

2013-11-25, 5:35am

Very nice!

dlando1

2013-11-25, 8:12am

inside the fume - just a closeup My new avatar :)

Very Trippy Bernard! I love macro photography!
Just waiting for the weather to change.

Celestial B

2013-11-25, 1:38pm

Boy there are some fantastic fume examples in thread. Thanks for the inspiration of what is possible.

dlando1

2013-12-02, 11:22am

Finally warm enough to torch! Glad I can take that helmet off.

marcel

2013-12-02, 1:57pm

Here is a silverfume bead ;)

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torchgirl

2013-12-02, 9:18pm

Love the bead Marcel, I wondered if this could be done. Very nice.

dlando1

2013-12-03, 2:54am

Yes,but only Marcel can do it! Just sayin'

PaPiGlass

2013-12-04, 6:42pm

Amazing works, everyone!
A simple switch back with gold fume from me.

bepnewt

2013-12-05, 7:48am

Pretty cool.

I need to look up this word "simple". Vizzini and I have something in common.

-BEP

dlando1

2013-12-07, 4:12pm

I was able to get a couple pendants done before the ice storm. The cats wanted to help.
Dave

Onekura

2013-12-10, 11:34am

gold and silver fume backed with different colours

dlando1

2013-12-10, 1:56pm

Very nice Bernard. Is the backing color Blue Moon?

Onekura

2013-12-19, 11:17pm

This (fumijelly) fits here too - it is all fume. Posted this in the new tut room too - under jelly fish. Guess I am a boro adict - just could not stay away . . . too many super cool people here - bugger the rest :)

PhatPat

2013-12-20, 6:15am

Nice! I have one in there somehwhere. I used silver and gold. Really fun to use fume it saves color. I hope I can torch this weekend . Glad ure back Bernhard!

Mary K

2013-12-20, 7:27am

That is one lovely Jellyfish! I love how the little air traps look in the tentacles.
Good one Bernhard, nice to see you post, & yes we are kind of irresistible aren't we?
lol.

dlando1

2013-12-20, 8:04am

Fumijelly? I like that. Glad to see you posting again. I had a show yesterday, and I sold more jellyfish than anything else. I'll have to try a fumi this weekend.

SonyaHusko

2013-12-21, 1:40pm

Bernhard, I'm so happy to see you back! Your jellyfish is absolutely beautiful!

dlando1

2013-12-26, 3:04pm

It's been a while since I made a Jelly. Here is one w/ gold/silver tentacles, and Loki's lipstick on top. I think I might try to kiln strike this to get the top darker.
Dave

Onekura

2013-12-26, 3:18pm

nice one Dave :) What makes the background green? I like this!

dlando1

2013-12-26, 6:09pm

Bernhard, it's the overflow of the top down over the tentacles. That's why I want to kiln strike it, to see if the color changes in the pendant.

dlando1

2014-01-27, 9:11am

I got to torch yesterday! It was 50 degrees F. Now it's 13F. and dipping down to -3F. tonight. Come on spring!

Mary K

2014-01-27, 7:57pm

Those are nice Dave, & love that jellyfish, let us know if it changes in the kiln.
In California we are having record high temps and no rain at all, they are talking
about rationing water in our area. Just remember, there is no such thing as
"Global Warming" yes right. Some pretty phenomenal weather going on these days.

Onekura

2014-01-27, 9:09pm

Dave, those turned out wonderful. I love the first one best, because it is off-set and radiates upwards, framed by golden petals - magic!

dlando1

2014-01-27, 11:39pm

Bernhard, I have to admit, the first pendant was an attempt at a wigwag. Thank the glass gods for pleasant mistakes! I did like how it turned out.

Hey Mary, I hope you guys get some rain soon!

Will.T

2014-01-27, 11:54pm

Those are really cool! The colors in the one on the right are amazing. I wish I could see that close up in person.

Celestial B

2014-01-29, 3:33pm

dlando1 ~ Was the "wig wag" based on the "simple implosion" technique Bernhard shared some time ago?

dlando1

2014-01-29, 4:17pm

It was based on Bernhard's technique, but I screwed up and it got off center. I need a refresher course!

dlando1

2014-02-01, 10:56am

Two from me. A wigwag and a vortex. Thanks for taking a look-Dave

Onekura

2014-02-01, 3:31pm

Dave, those rock - well done. Super colours and your shapes are getting better every time!

dlando1

2014-02-01, 4:38pm

Thanks Bernhard. Do you use a blow tube when you do your tube implosions? I'm thinking that I would have more control with one. What do you think. -Dave

Onekura

2014-02-01, 5:23pm

I never use a blow tube - don't need one - I want the glass to condense to solid. Just use a smallish flame to keep control - looks to me like you work very hot. I am a fan of slow and controlled - might take longer, but noone cares how long it took, only how good it looks.

dlando1

2014-02-19, 10:18am

Finally warm enough to torch yesterday. A fumed wigwag and a close-up. Thanks for taking a look.-Dave

Onekura

2014-02-19, 3:45pm

very nice Dave - I think you got that perfect - compliments :)

dlando1

2014-02-19, 4:56pm

Thanks, Bernhard. I'm try to melt it w/ a little less heat. It's takes a bit longer, but I'm happy with the results. thanks again. Dave

Celestial B

2014-02-20, 5:51pm

Finally warm enough to torch yesterday. A fumed wigwag and a close-up. Thanks for taking a look.-Dave

So this is a cooler worked gold fumed 'simple' implosion? Very striking. Love the colors.

Mary K

2014-02-20, 6:57pm

Finally warm enough to torch yesterday. A fumed wigwag and a close-up. Thanks for taking a look.-Dave
wow, that's a nice one there Dave. Stunning.

dlando1

2014-02-21, 9:57am

A totally screwed up wigwag, I'm calling "Fronds". -Dave

Onekura

2014-02-21, 12:25pm

and I totally love it :)

Mary K

2014-02-21, 5:52pm

Well Dave if someone didn't know that that was a screwed up wigwag, they would just think it was a really cool pendant, which it is.

Onekura

2014-02-21, 8:49pm

when things go wrong - sometimes they look just great.

dlando1

2014-02-21, 9:31pm

Bernhard, there's a salesman in you yet! You, as an etsy,robber baron! Go figure!
Nice pendant.

dlando1

2014-02-21, 9:32pm

Bernhard, there's a salesman in you yet! You, as an etsy,robber baron! Go figure!
Nice pendant.

Mary K

2014-02-21, 9:37pm

Yes I agree, Bernhard needs to start selling his pendants, not putting them in a box, It's just not fair to the pendant, it wants to be out there getting compliments.

Beadz Gone Wild

2014-03-03, 3:27pm

My latest marble using gold and silver fuming - I'm pretty stoked. 1 1/4" - kind of looks like smoke rings.
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Mary K

2014-03-03, 7:42pm

Hi Roberta! wow that marble is killer. Love it! Wish I could fume, but alas, no gold, no silver, and no idea how to do it. Maybe I'll find a class someday.

PhatPat

2014-03-06, 11:51pm

Hello everyone! Man i finally finish upgrading studio and the weather has been great!:koolaid: This is a silver fumed honeycomb pendant the rest i have no clue where that came from very fun to make. Thanks for all the inspiration yall!

http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a568/Phragile/a4965b239056877b852db021b26d164d_zps7d40ddcf.jpg
:koolaid::koolaid:8-)

Mary K

2014-03-07, 8:49pm

That's cool Pat, it looks organic & interesting. Glad you finally got your studio finished.

PhatPat

2014-03-07, 11:00pm

Thanks Mary!

Onekura

2014-03-09, 12:00am

fumed vortex - experimental :)

PhatPat

2014-03-09, 11:08am

Nice Bernhard ! That side view is really kool.

marcel

2014-03-09, 1:15pm

love seeing all the cool fumies :) here is one of mine ;)

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Beadz Gone Wild

2014-03-09, 2:33pm

Very interesting new fumies guys - can't wait to see more.

Mary K

2014-03-10, 6:38am

Another great bear Marcel, and whoa I didn't know you made marbles Bernhard,
that is a really nice one, gold on the top silver on the bottom, I assume? There is something about fuming that is so magical, nice work guys!

Onekura

2014-03-14, 6:58pm

a closeup of a freaky fume

Mary K

2014-03-15, 7:16am

Bernhard that is beautiful, what a picture.

Celestial B

2014-03-17, 8:21am

Wow Bernhard! Very neat. Are you working on a new technique?

Onekura

2014-03-17, 1:57pm

thank you - and yes, I am trying for vortex marbles

Celestial B

2014-03-18, 8:00am

thank you - and yes, I am trying for vortex marbles

Good luck with the vortex marbles Bernhard, but try to remember how you get some of these attempts on the way cause I think they are pretty awesome.

sangell

2014-03-26, 10:33am

I need to know where to put the object to be fumed. I can see the fumes as I come up under the flame, but it doesn't seem to be depositing consistently on the Maria or the button.

Thank you for your help.

Sue

PhatPat

2014-03-27, 9:44pm

Hello yall! First one is a silver and gold fumed wigwag. The second is a silver fumed honeycomb. Mmmmmm love honeycombs! Thanks for looking.

http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a568/Phragile/009d96beb4b2a9263bff75b4377d0717_zpsa8e944c5.jpg http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a568/Phragile/008190ef4907e367264491934ce83f2c_zpsfac4ba2d.jpg

So many different angles to get the different colors but here is a good one to show how deep the honey comb is.
http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a568/Phragile/508a2ceeb2cb4a40f66fed82491fcb18_zps88cd3c4c.jpg:k oolaid::koolaid::koolaid:

dlando1

2014-04-19, 11:42am

A couple of fumes. It's good to be torching again!
Dave

saraconklin

2014-04-19, 9:46pm

how did you do the one on the left, if you don't mind me asking, if you do, no big deal thanks for the inspiration.

dlando1

2014-04-20, 6:57am

Hi Sara, The fume on the left is a failed attempt at a wigwag design. Look at Phat Pats post (67) for a better example. Basically what I did was, fume a tube (22mm), then laid down straight lines of clear. Punty the end of the tube. Starting at the point where you put your clear glass, heat and make a 1/4 turn of the tube. Move up a bit and rotate the tube in the opposite direction. Turn the tube in another 1/4. I did this 2 more times and then heated and terminated the end. Try to keep the end centered(Which I didn't). Heat from the tip and collapse the design. When they turn out right they look like Phat Pats. This is as close as i have come to getting the wigwag right. Practice, practice, practice

saraconklin

2014-04-21, 12:33pm

thank you for the very in depth description. i am tooled up with the tubing and the metal balls. did you use silver or gold? see, i am a fuming newbee, my guess is that you can tell by the color tones but i don't know which is which. i am also guessing you put the clear lines on the outside of the tube since putting them inside would be impossible? yes? this seems a bit advanced for me. i make beads and want this kind of fumey, ethereal look in beads. hummmm

dlando1

2014-04-21, 2:08pm

dlando1

2014-04-24, 10:38am

Working on my wigwags.
Dave

cjw

2014-04-27, 1:34pm

Hi Sara, I fumed, first silver, then gold. Make sure you have good ventilation and a mask. Breathing heavy metals is not good for you. Yes the clear is on the outside of the tube. You can fume your beads. For silver use a reducing flame, for gold, an oxidizing flame.
have fun,
Dave

hey guys,

So i am just starting out trying fuming and i have a concern with ventilation,were can i get a appropriate mask from i can feel it on my chest after only working for around 1hr on the torch....

Rough_necked

2014-04-27, 3:02pm

Do you have ventilation?

If not then a mask won't do much. The toxins will still be in the air around you.

cjw

2014-04-28, 11:00am

Do you have ventilation?

If not then a mask won't do much. The toxins will still be in the air around you.

I am trying to get a extractor fitted to take the fumes out from my workplace don't really know for sure how you work this out,the mask is just a double insurance but i cannot find a suitable supplier cj

GlassAlias

2014-04-28, 11:55pm

LarryC

2014-04-29, 7:32am

Contact the 3M applications dept through their website and describe what you are doing and they will suggest a mask and filter. I suspect it will be a P100 product but they know best.

I am trying to get a extractor fitted to take the fumes out from my workplace don't really know for sure how you work this out,the mask is just a double insurance but i cannot find a suitable supplier cj

cjw

2014-04-29, 11:33am

Check around on the safety sections for great help with exhausting. Take it from me, when I first started I was excited to jump in and melt shtuff and probably almost killed myself because I had a crappy ventilation setup. After 2 hours I almost passed out on my torch. I managed to get out of my work area and lay on my couch but was having a very hard time breathing for hours afterwards. Make it a priority.

Thanks i fully take on board your recommendations i was feeling just like you mentioned in your post really awful all day after working at the flame for just a couple of hours,i will also contact 3m see what mask would be advisable to wear thanks guys.