Glass types/manufacturers...

[Cracked Baubble]

Would someone help a newbie out and give me a list of who's who and what's what?
I see talk everywhere of Kugler, Rechen(something or another) Lausha etc etc, the list goes on... I would very much like to know who is making what. What COE is each manufacturer making? and which ones can I mix?

[CO_Phantom]

There is a thread Tink started about annealing temps for different types of glass. I posted a chart on there that has the COEs of various glass manufacturers and people here on LE have given suggestions about which ones to add (and thus far I've been unable to do much more with it...but I will, I promise!!) It has quite a few glasses listed, including
Satake, Effetre, Lauscha, some boro...I'm adding CiM, R4, Double Helix...it would give you a start, anyway, for the COE and perhaps some of the colors you could mix (in theory...as always, your mileage may vary and some colors are just plain persnickety about mixing with anything...)

-Amy

[bclogan]

Well, let's see. This is what I know of off the top of my head....

Satake - ? I'm pretty sure it's something like COE 120. Not compatible, from what I know

COE 104
ASK (which is from Kuger, sold by Arrow Springs, among others I'm sure)
CIM (Creation is Messy) - produced in China for an American company, distributed by Frantz
Effetre/Moretti
Vetrofond
Caliente Cane
Czeck Glass
Lauscha
Double Helix

COE 96-ish
Kugler
Reichenbach
System 96
Uroboros
Zimmerman
That vintage glass sold by Phoenix Art Supply

COE 90
Bullseye

I'm sure there are many others that I have missed and/or don't know of.

[tasminann]

Caliente is 96, I think.

Add R4 to 104 COE.

There are also some glass greater than 104 like Satake and Easy Flow.

30-32 COE (Boro)
Northstar
Glass Alchemy
Preciscion
Momka's
probably more that I am missing....

[tgslampwork]

I think Caliente Cane is 96

[tgslampwork]

Ooops...someone beat me to it :)

[Phoenix]

Messy 96 - sold by Frantz and Phoenix Art Supplies (96 COE)

[Emily]

The Czech glass is a little tricky. If you're going to use it, you need to pay attention, because some colors can be used with Effetre and some can't. Jan Burrows in New Orleans sells it. He can help you with compatibility questions if you're interested. I think there are also lead colors in the Czech glass, and the lead colors can't be used with the non-lead colors.

Satake is like that, too -- there's lead Satake and non-lead Satake. You can't mix the lead glass with non-lead glass. According to Jo/dogmaw's website, the COE of Satake lead glass is 120 and the COE of the non-lead Satake is 113.

Did anyone mention Kinari? That's another high COE glass, but I don't think it's compatible with Satake. I'm not sure, though. I did some Googling and couldn't come up with any answers from anyone who seemed to know what they were talking about.

More brands of boro (COE 33, I think):

Elvis (this is really a color, or two colors -- Elvis red and Elvis black -- made by Glasshawk)
Elan borobars or borostix, which are sold, or used to be sold, by Aardvark
Tecnoboro or Tecnolux
Parasilicate
Pyrex
Simax
Kimex

[Emily]

You may see references to Schott, which is a manufacturer that makes glass of a number of different COEs. Schott makes a 90 COE clear that a lot of people who use Bullseye prefer over using Bullseye's own COE 90 lampworking rods (canes).

Right now, as far as I know, the only lampworking canes (rods) that Schott makes are the COE 90 clear that Bullseye people use. There was some talk about trying to get Schott to make a 104 COE clear in the size of canes/rods that we use, but it never got off the ground. (Come to think of it, though, I don't know whether Schott makes canes in 96 COE or not.)

Paperweight makers frequently use Schott clear. In Loren Stump's classes, you use pucks (shaped like hockey pucks, but smaller) of Schott clear to encase paperweight set ups. You use 104 glass to make the setups, but I don't remember if the encasing glass is 104 or not. The proportion of the encasing glass to the set up is so high that it might not have to be, but I was in such a fog that I just don't recall.

[Emily]

If you see references to Spectrum, it's essentially the same thing as System 96.

Spectrum is a stained glass manufacturer. System 96 is a partnership between Uroboros and Spectrum to make a line of glass that's guaranteed to be compatible the whole way across the line for fusing and lampworking.

If you want to play with stained glass scrap, people have reported success with using any Spectrum pieces with each other, even non-System 96. If you're not sure it's Spectrum, though, stick to one color per bead with stained glass.

[Cosmo]

You may see references to Schott, which is a manufacturer that makes glass of a number of different COEs. Schott makes a 90 COE clear that a lot of people who use Bullseye prefer over using Bullseye's own COE 90 lampworking rods (canes).

Right now, as far as I know, the only lampworking canes (rods) that Schott makes are the COE 90 clear that Bullseye people use. There was some talk about trying to get Schott to make a 104 COE clear in the size of canes/rods that we use, but it never got off the ground. (Come to think of it, though, I don't know whether Schott makes canes in 96 COE or not.)

Paperweight makers frequently use Schott clear. In Loren Stump's classes, you use pucks (shaped like hockey pucks, but smaller) of Schott clear to encase paperweight set ups. You use 104 glass to make the setups, but I don't remember if the encasing glass is 104 or not. The proportion of the encasing glass to the set up is so high that it might not have to be, but I was in such a fog that I just don't recall.

Schott makes 33 COE rods and tubes too. I have never tried them since they are so expensive.

UST is also another manufacturer of 33 COE rods and tubes.

[Anne Londez]

Just a quick precision, Reichenbach's info on their website gives their COE as 94 +/- 2.

[boobiebeads]

Yup, Caliente is 96 :)

[lunamoonshadow]

Kinari is only compatible with Kinari (it's not the same as Satake) & it's leaded.
It's really hard to find in the US too...