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Kalera 2011-01-31 6:52pm

Zimmerman Chat Thread
 
OK. I'm obsessed. As you know, there isn't much Zimmerman glass left out there in the world, and most of us know how fabulous certain colors are... like everything in the Lilac family: Z-99, Z-850, and Z-851.

Here's my problem; I WANT to buy 1/2 kilo of every color Olympic Color Rods has left, but money-wise, that's absurd! So I'm starting this thread in the hope that we can all share info on which of the remaining colors are absolute must-haves before they are all sold out and lost to the world forever.

I recently bought a bunch of blues, pinks, and purples, and most of them, honestly, are meh... they don't do much for me. I'll probably sell them off to recoup money to buy the ones I really like. But so far, three of them are really standing out for me; Z-850, which I have already posted about a million times:

http://www.beadwife.com/xv/shop/imag...s/12538.4.jpeg


Then there's Z-75, which they call "light blue" but is actually a super-dense, super-creamy deep lapis blue, and Z-76, which they call "gray blue" and is actually a fabulous deep indigo. In pics it looks kind of purple, but it's really deep warm blue.

http://www.beadwife.com/xv/shop/imag...s/12542.5.jpeg

I'll post pics of the Z-75 later this week.

What Zimmerman colors have you found to be absolutely fabulous? Are there any greens that have this rich, creamy, slightly variable quality? I'm especially interested in the colors they still have left here:

http://www.glasscolor.com/colors/zimmerman_opaque.aspx

Pictures are especially encouraged! Maybe if we all work together we can make sure we all get the awesomest colors before it's too late. :)

emkay 2011-01-31 7:21pm

I bought some stuff from Olympic today, and a lot of what is on the website is completely gone (Z-850 and Z-673 are totally, absolutely sold out) I'd assume many of the others haven't been updated as well. So disappointing, but I did manage to snag a tiny bit of Z-850 powder, which I am so excited about.

Kalera 2011-01-31 7:43pm

Aw man, I didn't even know they had any 850 powder left! I was just playing with the 673, and found it... weird. Is it supposed to be cool? I don't know if I like it, but I guess I'll see when I take the beads out of the kiln tomorrow.

dichromary 2011-01-31 7:53pm

I was only able to get some 850 in size 3 and 971 in rod form. I thought I would crush them into smaller size.

PattyK 2011-01-31 7:59pm

What a great idea! I've got several colors I'll post paddles of in the morning.

Mary at JewelMagic still has some Mountain Blue, a dark navy and a translucent white if anyone is interested.

http://www.jewelmagic.com/ (look under glass supplies)

Kalera 2011-02-01 12:17am

Quote:

Originally Posted by dichromary (Post 3386994)
I was only able to get some 850 in size 3 and 971 in rod form. I thought I would crush them into smaller size.

What's the 971? Is it cool? Tell us about it!

Kalera 2011-02-01 2:30am

Vivian, I love that Blue Grass Green! I will have to see if I can get some. :)

carolinesbeads 2011-02-01 3:43am

That frit girl has some.

Troll Lover 2011-02-01 5:07am

Wow Kalera, that pink is really screaming and gorgeous!

I have several frits from Zimmerman, just haven't tried them all. I'll go & exerperiment and let you all know :).

VivianLampwork 2011-02-01 7:37am

I've got a good bit of the 850. I have some in powder, size 0 & size 1. I'll weigh it & see how much I can spare.

Kalera, the grass green is one of my favorites. I've got some metallic blue that I haven't played with much. Also, I've got an aqua blue that I really love. I'll make some beads & show the pictures.

It's hard to make beads with a broken arm. The last time I did it, I burned my good hand. Today I'm going back & they might take my thumb out of the cast which will be a BIG help :)

VivianLampwork 2011-02-01 7:48am

Val Cox has purple rose in stock http://valcoxfrit.com/purplerosejar.aspx

Elizabeth Beads 2011-02-01 9:01am

I like the Coral Pink in rods. Great base for some of the other colors.

PattyK 2011-02-01 10:42am

Here are some close ups of a few colors. Sorry about the lousy pics. Blue Olive is a much prettier green than it appears here - a little darker and richer, as is the coral pink. The uploader insisted on making them lighter. :doubt:


Z-792 Blue Olive .............. Z-971 Mountain Blue


Z-352 Coral PinkZ-72 Yellow Green ................... Z-72 Yellow Green Trans


Z-82 Terracotta ..................... Z-772 Blue Grass Green


Z-705 Metallic Green Trans (reduced)

Kalera 2011-02-01 10:54am

Oooh, gorgeous! Thank you!

dichromary 2011-02-01 10:56am

Patty has a nice paddle showing the Z971. The beads are made with size 1 Z971 silver foil and Vetrofond dirty white.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalera (Post 3387333)
What's the 971? Is it cool? Tell us about it!


Kalera 2011-02-01 11:10am

It's beautiful!

PattyK 2011-02-01 11:32am

I bought the Mountain Blue primarily because I've seen Andrea Guarino mention it as one of her favorite colors. I wish I had been quick enough to get the powder too.

Kalera 2011-02-01 12:25pm

OCR only has it in rod now... I'm not sure I'm that dedicated to getting it, but maybe one of the enterprising frit vendors will buy it up and make it into frit. :)

I was completely skeptical about the Metallic Blue, but when I took the beads out of the kiln this morning they are beautiful! My new camera is on its way, I'll take pictures when it gets here.

PattyK 2011-02-01 1:08pm

Can't wait to see your pics of the metallic blue Kalera :)

VivianLampwork 2011-02-01 1:38pm

Can't wait to see the pictures of the metallic blue. I have a big bag of it & haven't had a chance to play with it.

Kalera 2011-02-01 1:40pm

I was just on the phone with OCR, and it looks like they are out of a ton of stuff, including the Mountain Blue rods and also the Blue Grass Green. :( I am hoping the gray I ordered makes it! I am looking for a good, dense, creamy gray.

Has anyone found that any of the greens, or any other colors for that matter, tend to devitrify and spread? That's the look I like...

Kalera 2011-02-01 5:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eplanet (Post 3388254)
We're working on it.......hopefully done very soon.
Also have a bunch of Z-99/Z-851 frit mix coming from old stock we had on hand :)

Oh cool!

My new camera hasn't arrived yet or I'd have pics up of that metallic blue... it's a little like the Loetz lusters, in some ways. Pitted and antiquey, with lots of color variation.

Ari'elle 2011-02-01 6:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalera (Post 3388001)
Has anyone found that any of the greens, or any other colors for that matter, tend to devitrify and spread? That's the look I like...

I've found that Mountain Blue devits like Z-99. I don't care for it but my brother and BIL use it a lot in their beads. I couldn't find any current bead pics but I lifted these from their old blog; unfortunately the pics aren't large enough to see the subtle shade changes in the blue portions too well.

http://seraphimflameworks.blogspot.c...ead-rioso.html


http://seraphimflameworks.blogspot.c...in-forest.html


http://seraphimflameworks.blogspot.c...d-sephira.html

Kalera 2011-02-01 6:56pm

Utterly gorgeous beads!!

Judith Billig 2011-02-01 8:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by emkay (Post 3386967)
I bought some stuff from Olympic today, and a lot of what is on the website is completely gone (Z-850 and Z-673 are totally, absolutely sold out) I'd assume many of the others haven't been updated as well. So disappointing, but I did manage to snag a tiny bit of Z-850 powder, which I am so excited about.

They don't display what they have in stock in real time.
I got several times burned that I ordered a large order and afterwards it turned out that some colors were not in stock.
Then I had to order these colors somewhere else, which doubled the shipping costs.

Unfortunately that is the reason that I no longer order with them.
Can't understand that they don't offer real time updates.

Judith Billig 2011-02-01 8:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eplanet (Post 3388254)
We're working on it.......hopefully done very soon.
Also have a bunch of Z-99/Z-851 frit mix coming from old stock :)

Yay !!!

Kalera 2011-02-01 10:34pm

So, on the topic of what colors *aren't* so wow... Z-353 salmon pink size #0. Just meh. I also got some powder, which isn't amazing but is workable... the #0 seems like it might be rocky from furnace debris or something. Not only is it not a very remarkable color (pretty enough, but not remarkable) but also there are lots and lots of bits that don't seem to want to melt in. We'll see what the beads look like when I take them out of the kiln, but right now I'm kind of wondering if I can return it... otherwise I'll have 1/2 kilo of this stuff I don't even think is particularly usable, and it wasn't all that cheap, either. So, if you're shopping, my suggestion is to save your money and skip this one.

Elizabeth Beads 2011-02-02 9:15am

I love the Zimmerman Coral Pink cane as a base color, the frit not so much.

Kalera 2011-02-02 10:54am

Yeah, I could see it as a base color. The color is pretty... but this frit is stony. I'm going to ask them if I can send it back, it's awful. The other sizes might be fine; I have the powder and that's fine, but the #0 is unusable.

Lara 2011-02-02 8:21pm

I have some zimmerman frit (I think size 1) that is purple and green. I have it labeld as z-99, do you think that is right or is it the z851 or z850? I used to have more but gave it away years ago, darn it!


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