Making devardi glass less shocky
As an alternative too, or in addition too using a rod warmer - has anyone ever tried annealing the glass in your kiln before using it?
It would be pretty easy to do in batches, and seems like it might help quite a bit too make it less shocky and easier to work with... |
Devardi Glass is Shocking!
It may sound like a crazy way to deal with the problem of DeVardi glass being shocky, but I love their colors and was looking for a way to solve the shocking and exploding glass without buying something else to plug in. I rarely use my fiber blanket, so I place it on top of my kiln (I have a kiln door) and place the rods I want to use under the blanket with about 5 inches sticking out so I have a cool end to hold. The heat from the kiln keeps it pretty toasty under the blanket, and the weight of the blanket holds the rods in place until I need them. It sounds a bit tricky, but it works.
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I've "annealed" Devardi rods with no success. They were as cranky as ever.
Like Gail, I set rods on top of the kiln to warm up. I also use a curling iron oven from Sally Beauty Supply to preheat them. |
I like to calculate the cost of all of the things one has to do to make anything workable when lampworking and add it to the price of the item. ;)
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Only if I had to kiln anneal or buy a special warmer before I could use the glass. :lol:
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I just cannot understand why Devardi does not just pull the rods to a reasonable, usable 5mm size. They have "stringers" on the site that they charge way more for that are about 3 to 4mm. I don't get it.#-o I will not use it for this reason alone. Any rod that is 10 mm will be shocky. I have 10mm clear Effetre rods that will explode if not heated very slowly. They really need to start to improve their pulls. If the rods were of even and managable size, it wouldn't be half bad.
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How do you preheat your Opal Yellow, Anice, Vetrofond glass, Effetre Pinks, Powder Pink, Coral, Lauscha Glass, Chek Glass, some CiM colors, some Bullseye colors. You can preheat the Devardi the same has you would these other glass rods.
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I do agree there are some glasses that are shocky in all of the lines, but the thicker the rods, the more shocky they are. I think if the rods were pulled smaller and more uniform, it would eliminate a lot of the problems of being shocky in the first place and perhaps eliminate having to prep the rods before using. That is not to say that all of the colors would not have ANY issues.
I use a heater that I purchased from Sally's beauty supply to pre-heat lots of things including Dichroic glass, thick rods of any make, murrini, etc. Anise is the only color you mention that I would have to pre-heat but I don't use it anymore. I don't find that the others give my any trouble. Quote:
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I don't understand why hand pulled rods always end up uneven. If you look at the hand pulled colors of Effetre's, they have the same uneveness, along with reports of the glass being somewhat finicky. Why can't all manufacturers use whatever machine it is to pull straight rods. And why can't the rods from other manufacturers that machine pull them, go into the flame without exploding. |
I have never had anything as shocky. The opal yellow goes on top of the kiln, and that seems to be enough.
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I work with anise white all the time and have very few problems and I haven't had any trouble with the other colors listed. I must work cooler than most...
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Well, she should be able to hate it if she wants to, don't you think?;) We all have our own opinions.
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Telling people to shut up never seems to go over well on forums.
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Opal yellow IS shocky!
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P.S. I like to gut dead horses and climb in them to stay warm.
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The semi-trans colors that I have tried are just awful. There is no hope for those. Just the other day I was thinking of just chucking them and yes, they are 5mm rods. I wonder why those are so uniform but they cannot pull the other colors like that?
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I wonder if someone could capitalize on making it into frit blends? It wants to be frit anyway..
I go to an open torch sometimes, and I won't sit beside anyone using Devardi any more. I have a permanent scar on MY boob because someone's rod exploded and got me from 4 feet away. It cannot be cost effective to invest in a warmer, heat it so slowly, have so much wasted raw material and try and turn a buck or two on beads, in my opinion. |
I'd like to know how many brave soles there are out there that just stick a cold rod of glass directly in the flame without even wafting it, in and out of the flame until it is preheated. It seems to me that everyone has some sort of preheating stage in their lampworking routine. I've seen videos of professional lampwork artists using those stainless steel rod warmers placed behind the flame, and to be quite frank with you, I have never seen any Devardi rods on those warmers. My two personal methods of preheating my rods are either a cup of boiling hot water, or an old coffee mug placed on a coffee cup warmer. My lampwork mentor used a hot plate to preheat her rods. She only used Effetre glass.
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Talk about dead horses. :lol:
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I do this all the time. I work Boro, though. My first experience working a torch was with a hothead and soft glass. Lots of exploding rods and way too slow for me. The memory of that made me a boro diehard. I work off mandrel and often start with 15mm rods with zero pre-heating needed.
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I use one of those curling iron heaters to preheat shocky rods. I really don't like to use it because it is really HOT. I almost feel like they're a little dangerous to use. I might make some frit with some of my devardi glass & see what I can come up with. I really enjoy sitting at the torch & making frit.
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Well, the good news is that when people graduate to better glass, they'll be so stunned by how easy it is to use that they'll probably make outstanding beads.
I find it funny (and kind of a bummer) that beginners gravitate to it because it's so cheap, because shocky/boily/persnickety glass is so NOT a good beginner's experience. |
If they can get the hang of it, they'll be ready for anything.
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