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Lorraine Chandler 2008-09-30 5:10pm

Silvered stringer not just for ivories?
 
Does anyone make any other color of silvered stringer?
I have a few colors I want to try and I have found that here on LE, members have already done most everything I want to do with glass and usually much better than my "original" plan/ideas.#-o

So maybe someone has already used some other glass colors? I was thinking of some of the Messy colors..... and black??
Also has anyone used any 96 coe glass for making silvered stringers?

Lorraine

UPDATE: COLORS LIST

Please remember you might not get what someone else gets, some people have very different flame characteristics. It may take fussing with your flame to get what someone gets.
First grouping is Effetre, CiM, Vetrofond, and any other 104 you want me to add. Hopefully most are familiar with just the names but I will try to add numbers later to each color name. *** means 3 stars! Love that color Silvered. If we get some rave reviews about certain colors I will add 3 stars to them.



Blacks ( experiment )
Hades
Ambers
Greens
Blues
Cobalt
Bordello
Rubino
Corals
Sage
Avocado***
Dirty Martini***
Stone Ground
EDP
Dark Brown
Red Brown
Copper Green
Alexandrite ( I am not sure if this is T or opaque, I will check it out.
Slate Blue
Fossil ***
Sangre
Yellow Ochre
Oranges
Sky Blue***
Avocado Marble odd Vetro 991
Fish Pink***
Silvered Coral on Hades***
Silvered Lapis


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BULLSEYE:

French Vanilla
Nougat
Golden Green
Oranges
Reds
Odds:
Marigold
Custard
Desert Sand
Strata
Buttered Popcorn


This is what I have so far. Just post what works or doesn't for you and I will transfer that new info to this first page post. BIG THANK-YOU'S TO ALL THOSE THAT CONTRIBUTE!!

squid 2008-09-30 5:23pm

I have seen some really pretty silvered corals.

coyotesfamily 2008-09-30 5:24pm

ihave! it does change some colors ;) i have never tried any of the messy colors (don't have much of it) or the 96 colors (again dont ahve much of it)

beadworkstudio 2008-09-30 5:31pm

Silvered sage or avacado is pretty, too.

Lorraine Chandler 2008-09-30 5:42pm

See...I knew there would be some very pretty proven silvered colors out there but I hadn't thought of the corals...WOW!!
Sage and avocado on the list with corals...

Okay..I am making a list and will try some of the Messy colors tomorrow. I am eager to try the dirty martini and stone ground silvered. :waving:
Thank-you for the answers
Lorraine

one hot beader 2008-09-30 6:12pm

Silvered rubino does some lovely things too!

Lorraine Chandler 2008-09-30 6:56pm

Okay...sounds pretty. Silvered rubino goes on the list too. :biggrin:

Thanks
Lorraine

GinnyHampton 2008-09-30 7:49pm

Silvered coral is one of my favorites!





It's super easy and fun to experiment with different colors instead of ivory :)

one hot beader 2008-09-30 9:05pm

Here's a link for the silvered rubino

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/show...+rubino+effect

crystalflipz 2008-09-30 9:11pm

Silvered EDP turns a warm orangy color - this is silvered EDP on black
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...DPandblack.jpg

This is silvered Vetro Coral on Hades encased
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...pseacanyon.jpg

Messy Celadon is reactive with silver if you want to give that a try.

Lorraine Chandler 2008-09-30 9:22pm

Oh Dear! looks like I am going to need more silver foil....](*,)

So many great colors..I do love the black.

Lorraine

KathyDinBC 2008-09-30 9:24pm

I like silvered sage a lot and I also love silvered cobalt and silvered dark brown or red brown. I think silvered copper green is nice too, now that I think of it.

Veda's Beads 2008-09-30 9:26pm

hades does cool stuff with silver - I don't have any pics right now but I'm sure someone will.

crystalflipz 2008-09-30 9:52pm

OK, I can't help myself - Hades and silver is my absolute favorite glass reaction!

Hades with silvered Vetro Coral, reduced
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...icWaltz1LE.jpg

Hades with silvered clear
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...eofheartLE.jpg
The silver foil was wrapped around the stringer for these, not melted in

Hades is the only black I know that does this - I've tried Lauscha and Vetro and they do nothing.

Lorraine Chandler 2008-09-30 10:15pm

Cosmic Waltz looks like it has a million tiny points of light in it...BEAUTIFUL!!

I am torching tomorrow and am just hoping I have a lot of silver foil out there....hiding in my workbench.
I know I have the hades and I have lots of corals. Hmmmm I wonder about silvered hades on coral????

Maybe Lapis and khaki or maybe periwinkle oh my! I think I have stumbled onto the never ending silvered stringer story...\\:D/ What fun.

It seems to be as addictive as frits???

Thanks for all of the pics...I might have a few over the next few days before annealing..

Anymore out there?

Lorraine

afina 2008-10-01 9:14am

Silvered alexandrite. If you reduce it, it goes a little golden-ish.

Lorraine Chandler 2008-10-01 10:35pm

Terrific... alexandrite..Got it. Tore the studio apart today and couldn't find my silver foil ANYWHERE!!!:pout: I think I moved it to a safe place. Hummmph!

Will try again tomorrow..

Lorraine

theglasszone 2008-10-01 11:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by GinnyHampton (Post 2104170)
Silvered coral is one of my favorites!
It's super easy and fun to experiment with different colors instead of ivory :)

Ack - who'd have thought!!! How gorgeous!!! I love this, Ginny! Love this thread - keep 'em coming!!!

After the interesting results I had with foiling a base Hades Bead then adding Poppy dots, I might try foilin Poppy and seeing what happens! Anyone else tried this yet?

De

Lorraine Chandler 2008-10-02 1:14pm

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Okay De. Here ya go..;).


I finally found my silver foil!!! \\:D/

So I tried a new silvered stringer and here are two beads I used it on. I will do more tomorrow.

It is kinda rare because of the oddlot but I LOVE how it looks.

It is a silvered Avocado Marble stringer. Vetrofond oddlot # 991

I have a few more up my sleeve to try so maybe more pics tomorrow??!

Lorraine

theglasszone 2008-10-02 1:38pm

Yummie! Keep 'em coming!!! :)

De

NLC Beads 2008-10-02 3:49pm

The Vetro Slate Blue/Grey - sorry, I don't have pics right now - looks absolutely amazing when silvered... (You know, the oddlot that's going for high bucks now, not the normal greys. :lol:)

I like silver on white, but I haven't tried it as stringer, it turns a nice gold color.

bluecatbeads 2008-10-02 5:38pm

I did CIM Borodello which was stunning. I didn't care too much for the silvered electric ave. Silvered fossil was great too.

Sorry I don't have any pics but my favorite was the borodello silvered.

StellaBlue 2008-10-03 6:07pm

I love silvered coral - and love silvered CIM sangre even better. Try it on Effetre cool colors Fossil - it is FABULOUS.

mad hatter 2008-10-05 7:24am

I really like silvered yellow ocher myself.

Lorraine Chandler 2008-10-05 5:45pm

Ohhh some very nice ideas. Maybe I will try a DH color? Weird I know since they are full of silver but maybe it will do something unique??[-o<

Lorraine

amealer 2008-10-07 2:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mad hatter (Post 2113841)
I really like silvered yellow ocher myself.

Is that Moretti yellow ocher? I've done silvered coral on ivory...makes a nice combination. Got to try some of these others!

Thanks,
Allen

Donna T. 2008-10-20 7:05pm

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This is a horrible picture but it's silvered EDP over coral and encased. I've learned since you can't encase EDP without cracking. I've kept this one for myself. The EDP turns a khaki color.

I've also silvered silver pink accidently instead of ivory. It turned the color of opal yellow. It would not spread like ivory though.

MelanieG 2008-10-21 6:47pm

After some reaction experimentation, I want to try (but haven't yet since I don't have any foil) silvered Effetre Grasshopper.

It doesn't seem to have the same reactions that other greens do (i.e. it seems to play nice with ivory but not with turquoise) so I'm wondering if it will do what coral does only with green instead of red.

SunDoorBeads 2008-10-21 8:22pm

I am so glad that I found this thread!!!! So many ideas and so many colors to try!!! I will give the grasshopper a try and post pics in a couple of days if my card reader gets here. I love all the eye candy keep it coming.

Moth 2008-10-21 8:34pm

Rachel turned me on to the silvered fossil and it really is divine.

I also like to silver plain old effetre orange...the opaque.

~~Mary

scootrgrl 2008-10-26 8:05pm

other silvered colours?
 
Has anyone tried effetre Sky Blue 224 or Violet 272 silvered?

I was just curious to see if they had some cool effect with the silver.

Janet

BetsyNH 2008-10-26 8:10pm

Any tips on how to keep the silver SILVER?? I've tried using it a few times, burnishing it on the bead (read tips from Passing the Flame), but it keeps turning a disgusting yellow brown, even when I try not to over heat it. Your stringers are beautiful. Any tips for a newbie?

crystalflipz 2008-10-27 5:23am

Are you using fine silver or sterling? Sterling silver turns into yuck when heated. You need the fine silver which is 99.9% pure.

BetsyNH 2008-10-27 5:40am

Quote:

Originally Posted by crystalflipz (Post 2156673)
Are you using fine silver or sterling? Sterling silver turns into yuck when heated. You need the fine silver which is 99.9% pure.

I don't actually know... I bought out the studio of a retired lampworker and have all of her supplies. There are two little packets of silver sheets (about 4" x4") with a fine orange tissue paper around them... I'm not sure how to tell what's what, and I didn't know enough to ask when I first got the stuff. :doubt:

BetsyNH 2008-10-27 5:42am

I just checked the list of supplies I got from her, and there is one packet of "silver leaf" and the other of "silver foil". Will either of those work?

Donna T. 2008-10-27 6:04am

Yes they will both work. I find that foil is easier to work with as it's a little thicker. Leaf tends to want to blow away and get stuck on my fingers. Foil is easier to cut into strips with scissors. Cut it while it's still between the protective sheets. I usually cut mine when I get a new book. Usually a whole sheet is more than you need for a bead (or to make stringers) so I cut the book into thirds before using.

BetsyNH 2008-10-27 6:32am

Can you refer me to a tut so I won't keep burning it? All I've been getting is greenish brown, even when I try to keep it cool.

Carolyn M 2008-10-27 6:40am

Betsy, how are you trying to use it? If you are encasing with clear there are certain clears that work better than others, someone will have a link, or you could search. Most clears will turn the silver foil yellow.

BetsyNH 2008-10-27 6:45am

Thanks Carolyn--
That's exactly my problem. The glass I got in the studio buy-out is Moretti, but there are some larger rods of clear that I've been using for encasing that may not be Moretti. It's been so frustrating to create what looks like a lovely color combination to see it look awful when I pull it out of the kiln! Won't use that anymore! Will Moretti pale aqua or light blue turn the silver brown, too? I use those colors a lot.

Carolyn M 2008-10-27 7:36am

the thicker rods may be Lauscha which will turn the foil yellow. Moretti clear should be OK, pale aqua will also work well.

Lorraine Chandler 2008-11-25 1:00pm

Thanks for all of the tips with silver foil, I really like using all of the very pale transparents instead of clear too.

Does anyone have any favorite Bullseye silvered stringer recipe? I just switched to Bullseye and will be experimenting when weather allows ( as I am in an unheated garage).

Lorraine

!ngridh 2008-11-25 2:23pm

Sorry I didn't read them all but of course the Queen of EDP says
EDP! lovely....

lavendar420 2008-11-25 4:06pm

With Bullseye, I use french vanilla or nougat silvered stringers just like sis.

Fire Mistress 2009-03-17 6:22pm

I have to ask....Has any one really had any luck with the transparent Effetre (any color) and silver leaf as a stringer?

LyndaJ 2009-03-18 7:27am

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2 TOUCANS (Post 2218375)
Does anyone have any favorite Bullseye silvered stringer recipe? I just switched to Bullseye and will be experimenting when weather allows ( as I am in an unheated garage).
Lorraine

Nougat, french vanilla, golden green, oranges, reds, burnt orange, odds such as marigold, custard, desert sand, buttered popcorn, and strata.

Lorraine Chandler 2009-03-18 9:38am

Well, now I am moving the torching part of my studio to my horse
trailer...but thanks so much Lyndaj for those answers. I can't wait to try them.

I bought one of the remaining 2 or 3 large sample packs of color from OCR. I got 1/3 pound of each color so I am excited to play with them ALL and see what I like best.

I like that it is 1/3 pound of each color because with the one rod sample pack if you like it that 1 rod goes too quickly!

Lorraine

nklt0 2009-03-24 8:28pm

silvered v.transparent cobalt on m.transparent red. Encased

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8.../beads/sbs.jpg

Lorraine Chandler 2009-04-19 10:19pm

My goodness!!! nklt0 That looks like a Double helix silver glass stringer!!

They are gorgeous. I will have to try that. :-k Thank-you.
Lorraine

Oh Honey 2009-05-11 11:18am

Quote:

Originally Posted by crystalflipz (Post 2104357)
OK, I can't help myself - Hades and silver is my absolute favorite glass reaction!

Hades with silvered Vetro Coral, reduced
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...icWaltz1LE.jpg

Hades with silvered clear
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...eofheartLE.jpg
The silver foil was wrapped around the stringer for these, not melted in

Hades is the only black I know that does this - I've tried Lauscha and Vetro and they do nothing.

Is it the coral vetro that makes the reaction so strong? I tried clear silver stringer and SIS and didn't get anywhere close to the blues you got. I got some blue but nothing like your beautiful color

Thanks
Dave

Steffi 2009-05-15 3:00am

Hello Dave,

it's the CIM hades that does the magic :) Put some silver glass or silvered stringer on it and reduce...tadaa :)


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