^there have been threads for both of those, I like woody but others are getting gray (i think? or poo?), I like it for trees. I think the consensus was that it turns a good brown when reduced a bit. Rogue too, I think I remember reading that people wanted what was shown but not getting the results, I didn't.
imo we need a general effetre thread, all these new colors I'd like to know. I know he has a try before you buy, but....
I bought navy blue, i loved the color shown, mine looks like faded and dirty jeans
(i'll take a pic later)
I didn't buy 50 shades as much as I wanted to because of these past fails.