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Originally Posted by Drafly

Jack, Don't you know? All Devardi Glass beads will crack in 2012 and that will be the cause of the world coming to an end! Scary!
Jim

It's exactly this type of attitude that turned me off of ever trying Devardi. From the very beginning, the people who chose to import and sale this glass in the states, you, and the various other Devardi plugs have done nothing but insult those who asked questions, those who were more than willing to give it a try, but reported cracking issues. And it goes on and on. Those of you who so vehemently defend this glass in the insulting manner that you do are NOT doing this company ANY favors. PERIOD!

Just because some people are reporting no cracking issues, DOES NOT discount the fact that others ARE having cracking issues. Hayley gave the glass a fair try, she reported her experience with it honestly, respectfully and professionally, and if the Devardi folks don't like it, too bad!

Originally Posted by Firemagic

Squid, sorry, I didn’t realize you are a glass chemist and know everything there is to know about this glass. How stupid of me to think that I could go by what the Devardi people say on the site, and by my own experience. It is just ridiculous of me to think that the chemical composition of glass could change if you heat the snot out of it, which could lead to problems. I should just go by your reasoning, even though you likely have never used this glass.

Again, insulting and immature!

And Hayley, if you don’t have the time to learn how to use the glass properly, why did you buy it? And why are you spending all this time posting your long spiel about how much trouble it causes if your time is so valuable? And why are so many other people using the glass without the problems you experience? It all sounds fishy, just like it did last year when you guys jumped on the Devardi people right from the start and tried to hurt them anyway you could.
And yes, I can read what went on last year without signing up. What a brilliant summation that was.

Again, no one "jumped" the Devardi people until the Devardi people started insulting THEM! I was also here to witness what went on last year. I was here and witnessed how it happened, at the time it happened, and who caused it to happen. Not after the Devardi people deleted their instigating, insulting posts, thereby leaving the thread looking like nothing but a bunch of disgruntled lampworkers bitching into thin air.

This thread was created for one purpose and one purpose only, to hurt the Devardi People. You were upset when this glass hit the market a year ago and now you’re upset because they are selling so much glass when other glass vendors are way down in sales. But it isn’t going to do any good. Too many people love the glass, obviously. And too many people see right through what you are doing, just like they did a year ago and bought the glass despite your false insistence that it isn’t good glass.

This thread was created for one purpose and one purpose only. For the OP to share her experience and frustration with a glass she was willing to give a fair chance. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm sick to death of hearing these stupid conspiracy theories about lampworkers and other glass suppliers trying to sabotage Devardi. It's the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard.

Every report about Devardi glass is a report. Plain and simple! Whether it is for or against Devardi doesn't matter. I'm sick of seeing people being attacked by these Devardi plugs because their experience and report of the glass isn't to their advantage. And you have the AUDACITY to say that "too many people see right through what you are doing", to someone else????

Insulting anyone and everyone who has less than positive things to say about Devardi glass does not PROVE the glass is good. What it proves is that the manufacturer, supplier and Devardi plugs have absolutely no respect or integrity, and THAT speaks loud and clear as the integrity and respectability of the glass itself.

People who lack a complete respect towards their potential customers will NEVER care about the integrity of their own products. Because if they did, like so many other glass manufacturers before them, they would have worked with their target consumer rather than insult and alienate them.

Originally Posted by SilverRiverJewelry

Because learning is fun. And the colors are worth it.

My understanding is Lauscha Super Clear doesn't play well with other colors. I have read thread after thread of the other brands that have issues of incompatibility. Seems to me, no matter what you use and how well its supposed to work, you will always have the chance that something will not like to play nice with something else. And it may work fine for one person and not for the other for whatever reason. If you are willing to figure it out it may be worth it. If you aren't willing to take the time to figure it out then go with what you are comfortable with. I have beads encased with the Lauscha Super Clear that cracked a month after I made them. Doesn't mean that I am not willing to try it again and figure out what went wrong.

It is absolutely true that some people had trouble with Lauscha clear. It is also true that other batches of 104 glass have been reported shocky, etc.

As some of the Devardi defenders have so graciously pointed out, you can find thread after thread after thread of people reporting problems with certain colors, certain batches, etc.

With one HUGE, MAJOR difference! The manufacturers, suppliers, and people who had had no problems with it, DID NOT attack those complaining about it. They discussed it, they reported it, they sought to improve it, but AT NO TIME did they EVER insult those who complained about it.

THEREIN lies the difference! THEREIN lies the reason these companies have the loyalty of their customers.

This is where Devardi and their cohorts went the most wrong. If they had handled things differently, NONE of this would be happening, over and over and over again.

I've said it once, and I'll say it again, they are incapable of learning from their own mistakes. And they are their own worst enemy!