[Eileen]

Yes, that is what I was saying, to hold it with the "tail" going down and roll up and away, but you might need a tool to hold it depending on how your torch is set up. I do it with my hand, but didn't want to suggest you do that and end up with you burning yourself. When I said from the side, I pictured holding your mandrel more vertically or angled, so your hand could be at the side. You need to hit the clear glass side with the flame and not too close to the torch, however you do it.