ok I tried closer to the torch and it did work, they are not nearly as copper as Hayley's or the pendant sadly imo, but more like the beads on the page. More gold than copper...still pretty but I really want that orange copper
http://www.doublehelixglassworks.com/Iaso.aspx
I'll take pics after they are done with their bath, but that seems to be the key, quick passes close to the torch.