If you are using forming tools or pressing your glass on tile, then technically I would say you are marvering. I have a love-hate relationship with marvering tools. I make lots of round or donut shapes so I don't have to marver, but I also love cylindar shapes which are essentilly impossible without marvering, at least for me. I consider myself press-challenged but I have recently fallen in love with graphite beadrollers, which could be considered marvers too. One of the best marvering tips I ever got was to treat your marvering paddle like an airplane landing strip, in other words, roll your bead down the length of the marver rather than spin it in place. I just got Andrea Guarino's large marver which is awesome - it has a notch for shaping the ends of your beads.