I don't add any glass. I stop the implosion before it goes round and keep the back flat, by many small pushes on the marver while I'm working it. Then, it's just a matter of figuring where you want the top to be and puntying up to the bottom. Shape it and add the loop. Pretty easy when you get the hang of it. PPP
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