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Old 2010-10-14, 11:39am
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Hi Guys..............I have for some time wondered how to make rings like these [url="http://www.paulstephan.net/index.php/component/portfolio/6-jewelry/60gallery-show-at-you-yousa-japan"].....i take it that they are made from tubing i believe, but dont even know how to start any tuts out their or your help i would be grateful....thanks cj
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Old 2010-10-14, 11:46am
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Old 2010-10-14, 12:40pm
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Old 2010-10-15, 10:18am
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Do not quote me, but I think if you make a flat ribbon cane with multipe colours, you could get that effect.
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Old 2010-10-15, 10:58am
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Why don't you contact Paul and ask him how he makes his rings?
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Old 2010-10-15, 12:07pm
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Why don't you contact Paul and ask him how he makes his rings?
Or contact this guy Harold and ask how he makes rings. His are nicer than those I think...
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Old 2010-10-15, 2:30pm
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Or contact this guy Harold and ask how he makes rings. His are nicer than those I think...
okay . . . .

just want to say, i'm not fond of the way the question was asked . . . .

anyway.

here is the deal. the style of ring you are looking at is based off some techniques that aren't going to work very well outside of boro; I think you might know that already but just in case - not a soft glass project. Also, not done on a mandrel, this is a blown object.

this style of ring is based on tube pulls, that is to say, producing some patterned tube and then making the ring off of that. the ring can look like what ever you would like. What you see on Paul's site is line work.

this whole approach to hollow rings can be called loosely the mushroom technique.

produce a hollow blown mushroom (blow handle at the bottom of the stem) and turn it into a ring by reaming open the mushroom's stem.

the blank you will need will be smallish; think 12.7HWY of about 40-50mm long. Two thirds for the mushroom cap, one third for the stem. be advised: thick stem = bad day. keep 'er thin on the stem and thick for the cap.

Pop two hole directly opposite each other just below the mushroom cap on the side wall of the stem; pop two holes, on the stem, right in and under the mushroom cap. ream those holes open. punty to cap. remove blow tube. using octagonal reamers and nice soft heat, melt in the reamed stem to for the ring's band. fire polish punty and done.

two hard parts. the correct set up of the blown mushroom form and the reaming out / melting in of the band.

think about what is happening when it's happening. develop a plan of attack. you would be amazed at what crazy messes can be melted in to look like perfect bands.

a tip: use prep you know thoroughly. don't try two new things at once with this project. use a patterning or assembly tech you know well and keep the mystery limited to making the rings. and don't use clear or colored tubing, you will need the resistance of actual color to make this project winnable.

good luck. you can do it. post what you get and get some more help.

hope you get a chance to see Paul one day. And to buy something. And to tell him that you respect him. With your words. And your cash.
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Old 2010-10-15, 3:36pm
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Thanks for explaining the technique Harold. I am awfully glad that you mentioned soft glass v boro. I often get asked if I make rings are my answer is always an education about wearing a ring from soft glass.
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Old 2010-10-15, 3:52pm
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Very nice of you to share your method. I love your work and wondered about the rings process. Someday I will be fluid enough to own some of your fine creations.
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Old 2010-10-16, 11:53am
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okay . . . .

just want to say, i'm not fond of the way the question was asked . . . .

anyway.

here is the deal. the style of ring you are looking at is based off some techniques that aren't going to work very well outside of boro; I think you might know that already but just in case - not a soft glass project. Also, not done on a mandrel, this is a blown object.

this style of ring is based on tube pulls, that is to say, producing some patterned tube and then making the ring off of that. the ring can look like what ever you would like. What you see on Paul's site is line work.

this whole approach to hollow rings can be called loosely the mushroom technique.

produce a hollow blown mushroom (blow handle at the bottom of the stem) and turn it into a ring by reaming open the mushroom's stem.

the blank you will need will be smallish; think 12.7HWY of about 40-50mm long. Two thirds for the mushroom cap, one third for the stem. be advised: thick stem = bad day. keep 'er thin on the stem and thick for the cap.

Pop two hole directly opposite each other just below the mushroom cap on the side wall of the stem; pop two holes, on the stem, right in and under the mushroom cap. ream those holes open. punty to cap. remove blow tube. using octagonal reamers and nice soft heat, melt in the reamed stem to for the ring's band. fire polish punty and done.

two hard parts. the correct set up of the blown mushroom form and the reaming out / melting in of the band.

think about what is happening when it's happening. develop a plan of attack. you would be amazed at what crazy messes can be melted in to look like perfect bands.

a tip: use prep you know thoroughly. don't try two new things at once with this project. use a patterning or assembly tech you know well and keep the mystery limited to making the rings. and don't use clear or colored tubing, you will need the resistance of actual color to make this project winnable.

good luck. you can do it. post what you get and get some more help.

hope you get a chance to see Paul one day. And to buy something. And to tell him that you respect him. With your words. And your cash.
Well i did in no way set out to disrespect Paul,i think his work is awesome i would love to take a class with him but seeing that i live in the uk i doubt i will ever get the chance.
Harold i do thank you for taking the time and trouble into giving me some idea how to go about this procedure it was very kind of you respect cj
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Old 2010-10-16, 12:50pm
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...and I hope cjw, that you didn't get your feelings hurt in asking this question.
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