Lampwork Etc.
 
Mountain Glass Arts

LE Live Chat

Enter Live Chat

No users in chat


Donate via PayPal to donate@lampworketc.com

Caber Light


 

Go Back   Lampwork Etc. > Library > Boro Room

Boro Room -- For Boro-related tips, techniques, and questions.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 2010-09-03, 7:54pm
orion's Avatar
orion orion is offline
Astro Cat
 
Join Date: Jun 23, 2008
Posts: 658
Default Boro Butterflies

I have recently tried to take what I have 'learned' making butterflies for beads of courage and make boro butterflies. I have done it twice. The first was an on mandrel bead and the second time I got ambitious and tried to do something off mandrel. Maybe because I'm reasonably new to off mandrel work, the bead turned out nicer in terms of the connections of the wings to the 'body' of the butterfly. The off mandrel version became a messy blob as I tried to get the wings to attach to the body. My question is, would it be best to:
a)make the wings separately, and attach later to the body (whether off mandrel or to a cylinder bead)
b)maybe flatten the end of the glass rod when applying to the body?
c)what I did, but maybe do it better - apply rounded 'blobs' of glass to the body (that is heat up a gather of glass at the end of a rod and attach) and eventually work out into the wings.

suggestions would be welcome!

thanks!
__________________
-Dee
space scientist/amateur violin player/glassworker
I
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
my Scorpion!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 2010-09-04, 7:13am
JesterGlass JesterGlass is offline
Glassmangler
 
Join Date: Oct 04, 2009
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 230
Default

Disclaimer, I've never made one, but I'd start with making the wings separately.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 2010-09-04, 2:42pm
LyndaJ's Avatar
LyndaJ LyndaJ is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 21, 2006
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 2,807
Default

I make a circle (off mandrel) and cut it to make wings. Heat and shape as desired.

__________________
Lynda
Cheetah, 5 lpm and 7lpm conc/generator (8-9 psi), natural gas (booster), started 11/06
"The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time." -- Bertrand Russell
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 2010-09-04, 4:08pm
artwhim's Avatar
artwhim artwhim is offline
Corgi Cult Member
 
Join Date: Jan 10, 2006
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 3,723
Default

I make the wings first, then the body, then attach. I get a stronger join if I super heat the attachment point of the wing and the body before, and as, I join them, than joining and going back to superheat. Hope that makes sense. I get less distortion that way too. Once on, I do superheat the back of the butterfly where the body and wing meet and slightly flatten, but if I don't apply enough heat at the beginning the join isn't strong enough. By doing it this way, I can maintain more of a crease on the front. Old photo, I really need to make some more. I have several sets of wings waiting for bodies.
__________________
Kathy

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 2010-09-04, 9:47pm
orion's Avatar
orion orion is offline
Astro Cat
 
Join Date: Jun 23, 2008
Posts: 658
Default

Do you put the wings in the kiln while you work on other wings or the body?? Or is tha not necessary??

Thanks for the help, and for posting the wonderful pictures.
__________________
-Dee
space scientist/amateur violin player/glassworker
I
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
my Scorpion!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 2010-09-04, 11:29pm
artwhim's Avatar
artwhim artwhim is offline
Corgi Cult Member
 
Join Date: Jan 10, 2006
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 3,723
Default

I usually put them in a fiber blanket. I used to put them in the kiln, but it seems like I have just as good of luck using the fiber blanket. The dicro ones are a bit more shocky though, so I should put them in the kiln, but usually don't.

I prefer to make the wings in batches and then later make the bodies and finish them off.
__________________
Kathy

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 2010-09-05, 4:03am
valerie_folly's Avatar
valerie_folly valerie_folly is offline
daughter and I
 
Join Date: Jun 13, 2005
Location: Folly Beach SC
Posts: 755
Default

I put my wings on the top of my kiln. Keeps them pretty warm!
__________________
Valerie
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Seaside Fire Designs

Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just swish and spit.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 9:09pm.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Your IP: 18.191.240.243