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2008-05-26, 10:30pm
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A Good Book in Making Murrini?
Is there a good book out there on making different types of murrini cane? I'm trying to figure out the murrini flowers and fish and would love a book with instructions on how to do one.
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2008-05-27, 10:11am
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Miniature Masterpieces: Mosaic Glass, 1838-1924 (Hardcover)
by Giovanni Sarpellon.
Seriously cool book. Seriously expensive: starts at $279.95 on Amazon.
Check out classes with Loren Stump ( www.stumpchuck.com) to learn how to really do it right.
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2008-05-27, 11:35am
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Pati Walton's book in James Kervin's booklet series has some step-by-step photos of making a clownfish murrini.
This one:
http://www.frantzartglass.com/index....oducts_id=1985
I did the clownfish in her class and it is a good starter type of murrini because of the way it is built.
I took a Loren Stump class and we made a more difficult fish murrini. It took three days to build from start to finish.
If you are looking for numbers and letters Cindy Jenkin's original book has diagrams and some tips for building them.
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2008-05-27, 5:44pm
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yukue fumei
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wow, that is
Which level class was that from? Is his class hard?
I am really tempted to start taking them but I feel like I need to get more skills before I attempt it....what are your thoughts?
Thanks!
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2008-05-27, 6:27pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nagibeads
wow, that is
Which level class was that from? Is his class hard?
I am really tempted to start taking them but I feel like I need to get more skills before I attempt it....what are your thoughts?
Thanks!
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Denise, you have great sculptural skills so this should be a good fit for you.
I took the third class in the sequence that Loren offers where I made that fish murrini and a paperweight and much, much, more!
Here's the description of the class I took:
http://www.stumpchuck.com/classes.htm
Theme Classes - Under the Sea / In the Jungle / In the Garden / In the Desert (5 days)
For people who have already taken Loren I and II and want to come back again for something new. Each themed class will include Murrini, sculptural and encasement projects related to the theme of the class. For example, "Under the Sea" includes several kinds of fish Murrini. The sculptural portion includes several kinds of sea creatures with tentacles and fins. The encasement portion involves creating a paperweight of an underwater scene with rocks, coral, shells, fish and sea creatures created in the other two portions of the class. "In the Jungle" covers frogs, lizards, bugs, tropical foliage and other things you find in the jungle. "In the Sky" covers birds, bugs and other things you find in the sky. "In the Desert" covers lizards, tortoise and other desert things. "In the Garden" covers bees, dragonflies, flowers, etc.
I didn't take Loren I or II first - although I should have! If I ever take a class with him again I will drop back to Loren I.
Here's the size of one scale that went into that fish murrini. Take your fist and ball it up. That was the size of one of the fish scales that we made and pulled down and cut up and stacked, etc., etc.
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2008-05-27, 8:10pm
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I know a variety of fimo techs can be used to make murinni.
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2008-05-28, 2:34am
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There are also murrine making techniques in the Japanese bead making books.
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2008-05-28, 6:12am
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I just did Loren II (In the Jungle) last week and had a great time. I would recommend that you do the Loren I class as a starting point (I did #1 last year) and go from there. They are great courses and you'll get a lot out of it. Be sure that you've got plenty of energy and stamina - you'll work pretty late every day for all 5 days.
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2008-05-28, 7:25am
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Thanks! That helps me alot! I think I will look into the Loren I....
WOW--if the fish scale is that big to begin with it must have been pretty heavy when assembled(even after pulling it down)!
I really want to take the advanced class....I want to be able to do some of the big sculptures in soft glass and those crazy murrini! That would be so cool!
I bought a stumpsucker a while back but it would be great to get the hands on tutorial...
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Originally Posted by MaryBeth
Denise, you have great sculptural skills so this should be a good fit for you.
I took the third class in the sequence that Loren offers where I made that fish murrini and a paperweight and much, much, more!
Here's the description of the class I took:
http://www.stumpchuck.com/classes.htm
Theme Classes - Under the Sea / In the Jungle / In the Garden / In the Desert (5 days)
For people who have already taken Loren I and II and want to come back again for something new. Each themed class will include Murrini, sculptural and encasement projects related to the theme of the class. For example, "Under the Sea" includes several kinds of fish Murrini. The sculptural portion includes several kinds of sea creatures with tentacles and fins. The encasement portion involves creating a paperweight of an underwater scene with rocks, coral, shells, fish and sea creatures created in the other two portions of the class. "In the Jungle" covers frogs, lizards, bugs, tropical foliage and other things you find in the jungle. "In the Sky" covers birds, bugs and other things you find in the sky. "In the Desert" covers lizards, tortoise and other desert things. "In the Garden" covers bees, dragonflies, flowers, etc.
I didn't take Loren I or II first - although I should have! If I ever take a class with him again I will drop back to Loren I.
Here's the size of one scale that went into that fish murrini. Take your fist and ball it up. That was the size of one of the fish scales that we made and pulled down and cut up and stacked, etc., etc.
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2008-05-28, 7:33am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RSimmons
I just did Loren II (In the Jungle) last week and had a great time. I would recommend that you do the Loren I class as a starting point (I did #1 last year) and go from there. They are great courses and you'll get a lot out of it. Be sure that you've got plenty of energy and stamina - you'll work pretty late every day for all 5 days.
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That sounds great Robert! Thank you so much. Do you by chance have pictures of the things you made? I would love to see them! Thank you!
I heard he likes to go very late (or early?) into the night/morning. I hope I can keep up!
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2008-05-28, 8:25am
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Here's a slice of my parrot head murrini from last week. It hasn't been polished yet and I had to bug out the last day before I could complete the paperweight (long story). I've got photos of some other stuff in another computer - Ill see if I can dig it out later. It a good class and does run on into the evening - I never stayed past 11pm myself, but some of the others worked on a lot later. Being an old fart with a long drive home made it tough to stay too late.
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2008-05-28, 8:47am
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WOWIE! Your murrini is beautiful!! This is exactly what I want to learn!
Thank you so much for the photo!
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2008-05-28, 9:29am
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Thanks. The beak got a little wonky so I'm going to do another one. It is an involved process and doesn't happen in a hurry, but murrini making is pretty cool. I'm working on a couple of new ideas now - will post when they're done.
Robert
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2008-05-28, 5:24pm
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Here's a Man in the Moon murrini that I made last summer. My wife made the earrings.
Robert
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2008-05-28, 10:44pm
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very cool and unique idea!
thanks for the pic
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2008-05-29, 12:06am
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I like the detail around the eye.
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