I need real purple!!

[ajwhite]

I need a real purple opaque - not lavender - not ink blue - not amethyst - just grapey grape dark hubba bubba purple. I have glass daddy purple and hawaiian purple and they are really more blue than purple.

I need purple for a team bracelet and encasing with dk amethyst just isn't looking right. I think Bullseye might have a better purple but I don't do bullseye - just 104.

Why can't there be a crayola box grape purple??

Let me know if you know of any.....

Thanks
Audra

[Sue in Maine]

Have you tried mixing your own with periwinkle and black? Makes a delicious purple, imho. Just remember how much you used... I'm not scientific so say 1 inch of periwinkle and 1/4 inch of black, mix it in and pull it out into stringer or just use the blob if you're after a base bead. Someone else may have better proportions... I just experiment.

Good luck.

Sue

[meadowesky]

If you want some BE purple and enough of the other colors you need to make the bracelet let me know
that way you could try some bullseye too

[meadowesky]

hey where in central IL are you? I am from galesburg area
so if you need the colors quick it could be there in about 1-2 days

[misfit]

check grape is really purple.

[ajwhite]

I'll check the "check grape" Who sell that? I've never really looked into the check glass because I read once there were compatibilty issues?

Thanks for the offer medowesky - I'll definately keep it in mind. I've never plunged into Bullseye because of the big investment. The colors are really nice though. I debate whever to jump into a bunch of bullseye glass or boro.

And I will try to mix perriwinkle and black - but I am lousy at color mixing and don't seem to get a consistent color.

Off to search! Thanks!
Audra

Oh - I'm between Decatur and Champaign to answer that question!

[ajwhite]

OK - I just checked the violet at checkglass.com (duh I looked all over for who sold check glass- sometimes the easiest answer is the simplest!) It looks a lot like the "new violet" I have. Can anyone post pics so I can see if it is really purple or another funny lavender? I know some glass looks different after it is worked.

Still on the hunt...
Audra

[fourpawsglass]

Go to http://jodelglass.com. They have this color, Purple Paradise (LT272), that is absolutely beautiful. You want purple - you couldn't ask for anything more purple. It is lauscha and is sold in different quantities ranging from $7.00 to $27.50. I buy my rods from Jodel - quick service and great packaging.

[ajwhite]

Thanks - I think I have that transparent purple - at least the early batch of it and it is a nice purple - but I need opaque. I tried encasing periwinkle with the trans purple and it just didn't work well. I wish they had that shade in an opaque.

[meadowesky]

Could you use the transparent purple over a base of white to make it look opaque?
I know it would lighten the purple a little bit depending on how thick your encasing is but it might work

[ajwhite]

Encasing over white really lightened the purple. I then encased over periwinkle and it was better. If I can't find anything else, this may have to do. By the way, is the Bullseye Gold Purple really purpley? I can't find a pic of it.

Thanks!

[meadowesky]

uhhh huh! that and some of the odd lots!! like purpleishious (sp.?)
and gonzo grape. the torch tips are here just click on the color and it will take you to a picture of the glass in beads!

http://www.bullseyeglass.com/connect...ips/index.html

[ajwhite]

The gold purple is the exact purple I need! Now if they only had that in 104 coe!

[artwhim]

Hey Audra, you must only live a little over an hour away from me!
Kathy

[beadgoodies]

The quest for a nice, true purple is one I’ve been on since I started lampworking! Thankfully, there’s a lot more available now than there was a few years ago. Have you tried encasing EDP with a thin layer of cobalt? It makes a terrific purple! Unfortunately, this method isn’t an easy one – EDP doesn’t encase very well and you have to be very careful about how much cobalt encasing you use. Effetre’s new dark blue might be easier in this regard, but I haven’t tried it yet.

I have a frit blend called Timeless Purple that makes a great shade of purple when used over Periwinkle.



One of my new blends that I’ll be offering next week, Mystic, is a great purple. Here it is on Uroboros white. If you have Uroboros white, you could get an even richer purple by double dipping it.



If you aren’t looking for any color variance in your beads, then frit probably isn’t an option. I just thought I’d throw that out there! I too wish here was a nice, true purple in rod form. It’s my FAVORITE color!!!

Candy

[Just Nancy]

Originally Posted by ajwhite

The gold purple is the exact purple I need! Now if they only had that in 104 coe!

Yep. It's the purples and pinks that make me think the same thing. So why do I stay with 104?

[basket99]

If you can live with large dark purple dots, then here is a solution: use Moretti 014 medium amber as a base bead; make the base fairly big. Add dots that meet each other of Dark Ivory, Moretti 276. Dk Ivory spreads out big easily. Staggered dots work well. Then add small dots of edp (Moretti 254 purple). They should spread to nearly the edge of the ivory dots. Don't let the edp dots meet each other, or all is lost, the purple is pale and blurry.
When this works, as it almost always does, the dots will nearly cover the bead and be a rich dark purple.

I don't know why this works; it will not work with a base bead of amethyst, strangely. The Med. Amber is the only base bead I know of that works. I just found this all out by accident.
Mary

[Just Nancy]

Mary,
That sounds interesting. What an accident to find. I'll be checking to see if I have medium amber. My daughter is always looking for purple beads (and is of course drawn to opaque ones .)

Thanks for the suggestion.

[ajwhite]

Originally Posted by artwhim

Hey Audra, you must only live a little over an hour away from me!
Kathy

HA! Where in cornfield purgatory are you?

[ajwhite]

Candy - your frits are absolutely gorgeous - I will definately keep them in mind. Unfortunatly I need a solid purple.

And Kim - thanks for the weight tip. I never thought of weighing the glass. My mixes are always inconsistent if I have to do a set. I've also found some glasses just don't play well together and end up streaky. I guess I need a scale now!

I think we need to form a glass lobby to tell glass manufacturers to get on the ball. We need a decent crayola box purple and pink THAT IS CONSISTENT FROM BATCH TO BATCH. I am assuming purple has gold in it and that may be a factor in why we don't have a 104 color - but I don't really know-chemistry eludes me. Maybe Creation is Messy or AIM will come out with that color. But please no more lavenders.

Thank you everyone for your input!
Audra

[crystalflipz]

I just got some of the new ASK violet nights. I don't know how it looks after torching, but on the rod it's the closest COE 104 glass to the BE gold purple that I've seen.
Carol

[Jude Rose]

If you have time and inclination, there is a color out there that really looks purple in a lot of ways.
It's VP246 Vetrofond/ Murano - Pastel Cobalt Lapis Blue
http://jodelglass.com/shopsite_sc/st...ml/page17.html

The pic makes it look blue and that's what the name says, but it really comes off as a dark purple, especially when next to another color. Sometimes it comes off as navy blue, but I swear I've seen the purple. I would compare it to Minnesota Vikings purple-lots of blue, but still very dark and rich.

Maybe that would help? Good luck on your quest. And yes, Bullseye has the right purple no doubt!

[HannahRachel]

Try PMing Brent (Mr. Smiley). He got some sort of Reichenbach rod from Olympic Color rods which was the best purple. But I can't remember the color number now... Anyhow, it was pretty compatible with moretti if used in small amounts...

[Mr. Smiley]

Z-99 is the color...

[Playgroundzz]

Originally Posted by ajwhite

Encasing over white really lightened the purple. I then encased over periwinkle and it was better. If I can't find anything else, this may have to do. By the way, is the Bullseye Gold Purple really purpley? I can't find a pic of it.

Thanks!

I was trying a base of lavender and encasing with the violet ink blue.. it was a great purple.

[Mr. Smiley]

Originally Posted by kimberly

Just a quick note - Z-99 (Zimmerman 99) is NOT compatable with Effetre or any other 104 glass. It is furnace glass - 96 (?) coe. You can use it in SMALL amounts with Effetre, but if you use it large amounts you may have trouble. It is a really lovely purple.

Ditto to what Kimberly said. In small amounts, it seems to be fine. It also seems to spread out and cover a lot of area. I prefer to use it with other furnace glass, so compatability isn't an issue.

[ajwhite]

Hey Jude - thanks for the tip for the pastel colbalt blue. I have lots of blues but I don't think this one. It does look kinda purpley in her test beads. It is worth a try!

Brent - how do I order from Olympic Color Rods? Are they big honkin rods or are they smaller workable rods? I love furnace glass.

I have a sneeky feeling I'm going to delve into Bullseye. Sigh...I can't keep glass straight the way it is! That will truly be a test of my feeble organizational skills.

Thanks again
Audra

[DawnT]

I love Olympic Color. Here is the link to the Z-99 Purple Rose:

http://www.glasscolor.com/products/d...D=106&pID=1215

or you could order the frit. There is a 1/2 kilo minimum on frits though. Personally I find the Purple Rose to be a pain. It tends to devit on me much like EDP. If you want an easy purple I would say go for the BE. They have such beautiful colors.

[ajwhite]

I just remembered I got some of the purple rose from Val Cox a while ago. It devits every single time I use it. Regardless of how cool I work it, how neutral etc - it just devits so it is now sitting in a drawer being punished along with a bunch of EDP. It is pretty glass though .

Where is the best place to buy Bullseye if one were crazy enough to add another line of glass to the sick collection of glass she already has?

Audra

[DawnT]

Kalera sells by the rod!

www.bridgetownglass.com