|
Tips, Techniques, and Questions -- Technical questions or tips |
2010-07-22, 12:49pm
|
|
Silver Hogs/Tool Junkies
|
|
Join Date: Jun 09, 2006
Location: Lake Mary, Florida
Posts: 1,028
|
|
The best clear?
I need some opinions here please. What is your favorite clear 104 glass besides DH Aether and why? Thanks.
Jack
__________________
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-07-22, 1:45pm
|
|
Duchess of Dichro
|
|
Join Date: Jun 03, 2006
Location: Long Island New York
Posts: 2,399
|
|
Doesn't Davardi make a clear ?
__________________
Leslie
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-07-22, 4:31pm
|
|
Silver Hogs/Tool Junkies
|
|
Join Date: Jun 09, 2006
Location: Lake Mary, Florida
Posts: 1,028
|
|
Thank you Kimberly for an actual answer to my question. I've heard some good things about Moretti Super Clear. Which do you prefer between Super Clear and Vetrofond?
No one else has an opinion on their favorite 104 clear? I've hunted for other older threads on this subject, but I can't seem to find them.
Thanks, Jack
__________________
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-07-22, 4:33pm
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 15, 2009
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,035
|
|
I have used Devardi clear with great success. I also use the effetre super clear, and this last batch I got is working very well.
__________________
Sonja
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-07-22, 4:34pm
|
|
Silver Hogs/Tool Junkies
|
|
Join Date: Jun 09, 2006
Location: Lake Mary, Florida
Posts: 1,028
|
|
Thank you Sonja.
Jack
__________________
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-07-22, 4:46pm
|
|
Peerless Thread Killer
|
|
Join Date: Jul 20, 2007
Location: Mt. Chokula
Posts: 1,148
|
|
I've been using Effetre Super Clear and loving it, but lately, it's been scumming on me and I'm not sure why. I don't know if it's a different batch or what.
Diamond clear is wonderful, but stiffer and I had it crack with a few colors.
CIM clear scums for me.
I am so perplexed as to why all of the colored transparents are so scum-free, but many times the clears are crapola.
__________________
Check out my Etsy shop: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-07-22, 4:52pm
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jan 07, 2007
Location: High Point, NC
Posts: 1,402
|
|
I used Vetrofond crystal clear for a couple years with no problem. Last batch I got was horrible. Bubbles galore! Effetre super clear has been ok-I have to pull of the first part.
__________________
♥.·:*¨¨*:·.♥.·: Bethany :·.♥.·:*¨¨*:·.♥
When a child is born... so is a grandmother
|
2010-07-22, 5:16pm
|
|
Silver Hogs/Tool Junkies
|
|
Join Date: Jun 09, 2006
Location: Lake Mary, Florida
Posts: 1,028
|
|
Thanks for your opinions Nina and Bethany. I'm with you Nina, I'm perplexed too.
Jack
__________________
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-07-22, 5:47pm
|
|
Newfoundland lover!
|
|
Join Date: Sep 03, 2005
Location: south shore, Mass.
Posts: 979
|
|
Diamond clear. I have had the greatest success with encasing and little or no problems.
__________________
-Merilee
Lynx, tanked propane, M-10 oxy and refurb oxy -5.
|
2010-07-22, 6:00pm
|
|
Did someone say SALE?
|
|
Join Date: Aug 20, 2008
Location: Indiana
Posts: 995
|
|
Lauscha is very clear, but so crack prone. Gotta park those beads HOT HOT HOT to avoid cracks. I would like to try the soft clear.
Kugler- didn't like it.
TAG Clarity - Generally pretty good.
Vetro- I have only gotten the problem batches lately.
Messy - Haven't tried it
Super Clear Effetre - Varies but current batch good.
Diamond Clear- Seems "ok" but haven't used it enough to tell. Lots of people complain about the new batches.
Effetre pale aqua- Nice cheap encasing glass that doesn't get so yellow with silver foil and silver glass.
Nothing quite as good as Aether....imho. Sorry! I wish there were!
__________________
Beth
|
2010-07-22, 6:37pm
|
|
PyronamixK
|
|
Join Date: Jun 24, 2005
Location: Spatula City
Posts: 4,196
|
|
Aether is a nice clear, but it has its limitations (that can also be special features with the right glass). It is a very soft clear, so plan accordingly.
I like Effetre and Vetrofond clears. If the rod is thick and scratched up. I can peel it down and get very nice clean clear. It isn't too stiff and it isn't too soupy.
I liked the first batch of CIM special tissue-wrapped clear that I had, but the batch that I just bought isn't so hot - insta-scum. Maybe I am working hotter now than I used to work.
__________________
Kimberly
working glass since 1990 - melting it on a torch since 2002
|
2010-07-22, 7:29pm
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: May 24, 2006
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 915
|
|
I like Super Clear, but it seems a little scummy lately.
__________________
I'm destashing.. If you're looking for something just ask..
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-07-22, 8:38pm
|
|
Silver Hogs/Tool Junkies
|
|
Join Date: Jun 09, 2006
Location: Lake Mary, Florida
Posts: 1,028
|
|
Thank you everyone for your opinions on clears and their working properties. I really appreciate it.
Maybe I'll start encasing with pale aqua or pale blue, or I could get a rod of each, then just try them out and go from there. Now I wonder where I could get a rod of each clear to try.
Oh Reenie...
Thanks again, Jack
__________________
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-07-23, 6:01am
|
Bead Crone
|
|
Join Date: Apr 01, 2010
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 434
|
|
The latest batch of Effetre Super Clear is faboo. No scumming for me, and it's soft and buttery.
__________________
Pam
"I'm like a lizard. I need something warm beneath me, or I can't digest my food." -Santana
|
2010-07-23, 6:21am
|
|
Formerly FishBulb
|
|
Join Date: Dec 05, 2008
Location: Pony Flower Princess Land
Posts: 2,772
|
|
Nobody has mentioned Reichenbach Crystal 104. Delicious and incredibly clear. The only problem is that it is very, very stiff so it's difficult to use for encasing.
I love Reichenbach 104 *anything* and this clear is fabulous.
I'm glad to hear Effetre has a good batch again. I used to have good luck with it, and now I'm finding it scummy. Maybe I'll have to try a new batch and keep this other stuff for filler glass.
__________________
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
In Soviet Russia, Google searches you.
|
2010-07-23, 6:48am
|
|
Did someone say SALE?
|
|
Join Date: Aug 20, 2008
Location: Indiana
Posts: 995
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by FishBulb
Nobody has mentioned Reichenbach Crystal 104. Delicious and incredibly clear. The only problem is that it is very, very stiff so it's difficult to use for encasing.
I love Reichenbach 104 *anything* and this clear is fabulous.
I'm glad to hear Effetre has a good batch again. I used to have good luck with it, and now I'm finding it scummy. Maybe I'll have to try a new batch and keep this other stuff for filler glass.
|
I knew I forgot one! Yes, I agree.
__________________
Beth
|
2010-07-23, 7:44am
|
|
To Bead Or Not To Bead
|
|
Join Date: Jun 15, 2005
Location: Livonia, Michigan
Posts: 2,089
|
|
I don't care for Moretti Super Clear, Vetrofond or CIM clear. They all get scummy for me. Aether is very nice, but expensive and it does tend to turn some silver colors over to the greenish side. So my favorite clear is Lauscha. I've used it with silver glass and have not had any problems with cracks. I think Reichenbach and Kugler clears are ok too.
Patsy
__________________
Etsy: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Ebay: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-07-23, 8:02am
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: May 23, 2006
Posts: 5,540
|
|
Exactly. And I use Vetrofond or Effetre clears. I don't find too much difference between the two. The super clear is nice too. I cut about 1 1/2" pieces of a 10mm rod and put them into my kiln. I heat a clear rod and grab one, clean or peal if necessary but not always, and blob encase for my last encasement.
Quote:
Originally Posted by kbinkster
I like Effetre and Vetrofond clears. If the rod is thick and scratched up. I can peel it down and get very nice clean clear. It isn't too stiff and it isn't too soupy.
|
__________________
Cynthia
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-07-23, 8:23am
|
|
To bead Yeah! ;)
|
|
Join Date: Apr 23, 2007
Location: South Africa
Posts: 3,708
|
|
I use the Moretti super and crystal clear, but can't say that they are without flaws. when you heat the rod you see the imperfections. I have NO cracking issues with Moretti this is my main reason for using it, no problems with encasing silverglass. It is a nice soft glass. The thick rods need so much heating if you have hard rods, and I don't have the patients for that,
I do wipe my rods before I use them and don't have greasy hands( hand lotions etc)
__________________
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. _ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. NEW "Marble Twist" tut!
HOLLOW BEAD, 3D SQUARES for hollow beads, Rose Murrini and Multi Murrini tut, JETZT alle in DEUTSCH erhältlich!
|
2010-07-23, 8:25am
|
|
Lampworkaholic!
|
|
Join Date: Apr 22, 2008
Location: Cornelius, NC - because weather
Posts: 5,158
|
|
R104 crystal is great but stiff. There is a R104 soft crystal out that I plan to try soon.
Aether is a pleasure to use but does react with some silver reducing glass, luckily not with the striking silvers which I favor.
I also like to encase in pale transparent colors if I want to play up a pink, lavender, blue or green tonality.
__________________
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
"And all will turn to silver glass, a light on the water, grey ships pass into the west." Annie Lennox
|
2010-07-23, 8:28am
|
|
Silver Hogs/Tool Junkies
|
|
Join Date: Jun 09, 2006
Location: Lake Mary, Florida
Posts: 1,028
|
|
Only one "smart-a**" out of everyone who chimed in! I knew there were helpful artists here who would want to help a fellow artisan with a decision!!! Again, thanks to everyone who took the time to give their honest opinions. It's much appreciated.
Jack
__________________
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-07-23, 1:30pm
|
|
Silver Hogs/Tool Junkies
|
|
Join Date: Jun 09, 2006
Location: Lake Mary, Florida
Posts: 1,028
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by lesliedana1
Doesn't Davardi make a clear ?
|
Yes, Devardi DOES make a clear.
Speaking of Devardi, isn't it great to see Daniel and Natasha doing so well now Leslie?!! After all those immature and nasty people raked them over the coals for no good reason.
I guess sometimes the "nice guys" DO win, huh!
Jack
__________________
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-07-23, 4:47pm
|
|
MaximumAwesomeIdeaCount!
|
|
Join Date: Aug 15, 2007
Location: Boulder, Colorado
Posts: 906
|
|
I use Reichenbach Crystal 104 for encasement all the time. I love it for silver glass, but it will test your heat control due to its stiffness.
--Joy
__________________
Joy
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Use LEFRIEND as a 15% off coupon in my Etsy!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-07-23, 5:03pm
|
|
Silver Hogs/Tool Junkies
|
|
Join Date: Jun 09, 2006
Location: Lake Mary, Florida
Posts: 1,028
|
|
I'm gonna try the Reichenbach as well as the Moretti, Vetrofond and TAG Clarity.
Jack
__________________
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-07-24, 8:29am
|
|
MaximumAwesomeIdeaCount!
|
|
Join Date: Aug 15, 2007
Location: Boulder, Colorado
Posts: 906
|
|
Jack, would you like a couple of rods of the clarity, reichenback, super clear moretti and vetrofond? I could spare a couple of each, although my clarity is seconds, but then you wouldn't be stuck with a 1/4 lb of each.
--Joy
__________________
Joy
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Use LEFRIEND as a 15% off coupon in my Etsy!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-07-24, 11:26am
|
|
Silver Hogs/Tool Junkies
|
|
Join Date: Jun 09, 2006
Location: Lake Mary, Florida
Posts: 1,028
|
|
Joy, that's sooooo kind of you to offer!! I really appreciate it, but I already have a rod of each on their way to me as I write this.
What a GREAT idea Kimberly! I've been using the Lauscha reformulated for a while now. I've often wondered about the clarity compared to others. I will definately give your idea a try when my rods arrive. Thank you very much!
Jack
__________________
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-07-24, 2:13pm
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 08, 2006
Location: Palmdale, California
Posts: 7,589
|
|
I just found this thread lol.
Hopefully you'll have your glass by Monday Jack. I hope one of them will work for you. I also have some Lauscha stored here for you if you decide you want some of that.
Still haven't tested it to see if it was the reform or the soft clear. I'll get on that before then
__________________
Irene
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-07-24, 3:02pm
|
|
I'm meeeeelting
|
|
Join Date: May 27, 2007
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 2,236
|
|
I've had pretty good luck with thick rods of Effetre clear that have been soaked in vinegar to clean out the scratches.
__________________
Etsy: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Foot Pedal Tutorial: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Kevlar Fingerless Gloves: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-07-24, 6:51pm
|
|
Silver Hogs/Tool Junkies
|
|
Join Date: Jun 09, 2006
Location: Lake Mary, Florida
Posts: 1,028
|
|
Thank you Reenie and Felicia!
Jack
__________________
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-07-24, 8:24pm
|
|
Puddy Cat Lover
|
|
Join Date: Nov 04, 2005
Location: DeMotte, IN
Posts: 1,592
|
|
I use different clear glass for different things. The best for me was lauscha for it's clarity. But I've also had great success with melting a big glob of effetre and picking out any scum or inclusions and then pulling slowly into a thick stringer. Then I know it's a clean clear glass that will work great for encasing any 104 glass that I have.
__________________
Jeanette Savina Cobb
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. * To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. *
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:48pm.
|