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2008-07-10, 11:30am
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Crackle affect of ivory
Can someone please tell me how to do this. I use to do these beads a while back and can't remember how.
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2008-07-10, 11:35am
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I pretty sure this was achieved with silver, but when I wrap the silver around the ivory I get an ugly color. So what am I doing wrong?
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2008-07-10, 12:14pm
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maybe your thinking about making silvered ivory stringers, then wrapping them around the ivory?
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2008-07-10, 12:28pm
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This only works on dark ivory, but I get a gorgeous crackle effect when I heavily fume the bead with silver, hold it in a reduction flame, then go back to an oxygen-rich flame, rolling the bead in the flame until I see the crackle effect. It looks like pottery glaze! Is this what you mean?
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2008-07-11, 7:20am
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You could cheat
I get a lot of my crackles with silver foil on dark ivory on nothing else - but I love the effect when I muddle in another organic color - honey crunch and the marbled avocado and opal yellow are my current favorites
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2008-07-11, 7:28am
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Jessica,
you mean just laying pieces of the silver foil onto the dark ivory bead? Then heating in ?
Thanks !
ps ouch poor elbow !! heal up fast!
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2008-07-11, 7:29am
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Originally Posted by cadia
Jessica,
you mean just laying pieces of the silver foil onto the dark ivory bead? Then heating in ?
Thanks !
ps ouch poor elbow !! heal up fast!
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I do - let me find a couple samples and see if I can step through them
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2008-07-11, 7:30am
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If you put on very fine "threads" of intense black over the dark ivory and cook the heck out of it, it will get a type of "crackle" effect. Is that what you mean?
I think I used both intense black and a bit of SIS on this bead.
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2008-07-11, 7:41am
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This one has dark ivory with a strip of silver near the bottom and swipes of honey crunch in the middle - the crackle is often around the silver, not on, so I like to use flakes or stripes of silver in most cases
This one has a tad of honey crunch and silver all muddled in - when I say tad I mean like 5 mm of the rod.
more silver ratio gives less cracking in my opinion - example -
mixed with lots of opal yellow - dark ivory is only on the bottom
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2008-07-11, 7:42am
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and thanks for the good wishes - I'm on the road to recovery
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2008-07-11, 7:47am
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Jane I love that lentil!
Jessica,
So I'm thinking ~ have some pieces and strips of silver already cut, then take a (COOL) dark ivory stringer or rod , lick it (spits sticks best!) and pick up a piece of the silver on the rod then heat up and lay on the bead???
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2008-07-11, 8:53am
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Jane I love that lentil!
Jessica,
So I'm thinking ~ have some pieces and strips of silver already cut, then take a (COOL) dark ivory stringer or rod , lick it (spits sticks best!) and pick up a piece of the silver on the rod then heat up and lay on the bead???
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Here's my method of silver to a bead (not silvered stringer)
cut flakes or strip - I generally go for jagged, often tearing
lay strips on marver, flat
create bead, with ends done well - but not squished
warm bead, not molten - just warm
roll over silver
make entire bead molten and shape from there - the silver gets lots of heat with this
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If I want actual silver color, I roll after the bead is completely shaped - but for these, I did not use that technique - and it does not lend itself to crackle that way
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2008-07-11, 4:11pm
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Love that opal yellow one with all the color variation. How are you getting all that pinky orange from the yellow?
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2008-07-11, 5:00pm
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Id' like to know too My OY often looks blah or burnt!
Thanks for the tips Jessica,
I've had some SL sitting here forever and havent touched it, this sounds like something I'd like to try
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2008-07-11, 8:25pm
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the secret to that opal yellow - are you ready? It's layered thin over red-purple
voila!
It had a good blush as well - but I'm sure the bulk of what you are seeing is seep through of the red-purple - a trick I've used before for depth
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2008-07-11, 10:16pm
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You can also get a mellow crackle effect by burning the ivory. Or just get it uber hot and cool with a marver a few times.
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2008-07-12, 6:18am
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I love those too loco - I tried to upload a no silver pic and kept running into trouble - so i decided to ignore it
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2008-07-12, 8:16pm
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Thanks all for the great information. I will try all of these techniques. I think the one I did a while back was with SIS, but just forgot how I was putting it on for the crackling to happen. I think I'm losing my mind here (I guess I'm just getting old lol).
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2008-07-12, 8:49pm
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I never knew how to get that crackle effect but I sure do like it! I'm going to try this too.
I got a really nice curdled effect like in Jessica's 2nd bead..... once. As much as I tried I could never reproduce it. Loco, Since I didn't use silver maybe you finally gave me the secret. Yeah!
Thanks!
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2008-07-13, 4:53am
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I use a little bit of silver glass to get the effect. This has a stripe of Terra over Effetre Dk Ivory
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2008-07-15, 11:53pm
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Crackle Effect
I use clear frit over my beads after applying silver foil and "cooking" it in.
Just heat the bead and roll into the clear frit once or twice, cooking each layer in. You will get a very fine crackle/veining look.
Sue
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2008-07-16, 3:57pm
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I don't know how, but I forgot how much I liked Organics until this thread. They used to be my favorites for "just playing around". These are some great how to tips. The pictures you all posted are really helpful too.
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2008-07-20, 5:33pm
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I love playing with ivory! This is light ivory with a few dots of SIS that I worked in and swirled.
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2008-07-22, 3:30pm
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I love playing with ivory! This is light ivory with a few dots of SIS that I worked in and swirled.
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Very Nice! Thanks for the picture.
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2008-07-23, 12:35pm
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Here's another. This one has no silver on it at all. The crackle effect is from the silvered glass I used on it. The silver in the glass fumes the ivory underneath.
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2008-07-23, 1:32pm
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Here is a set I did with Triton and ivory. The silver glasses make that cool crackle effect.
Patricia
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2008-07-28, 4:54am
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Here's another. This one has no silver on it at all. The crackle effect is from the silvered glass I used on it. The silver in the glass fumes the ivory underneath.
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Wow, thanks for sharing that picture and the suggestion.
So just by using the silvered glass and random placement you were able to cause that overall crackle effect?
Since I only have a few rods of Olympia Rain could I ask what kind of silver glass did you use? I would like to get more but I am not "on the curve" on what is out there.
Also, was it dark ivory??
Great bead!
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2008-07-29, 2:06pm
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Lots of silvered glasses enhance the natural 'curdling' effect of dark ivory. This is TAG Juno on dark ivory, for example.
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2008-08-07, 4:06pm
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Where do you start when you have had to take a 6-8 week break from torching? Now that the heat wave has finally broken I couldn't figure out what to make. The rhythm was broken. Then I remembered this thread.
Organics are a great way to get back into the groove of glass. Thanks again everyone for the tips and pics! And to Killerbeads for having a senior moment.
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2008-08-08, 2:58am
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I have been using the silver cinnamon to try to get crackles, and I do get some, but the SC sinks into the ivory quite a bit. Sometimes it just disapears almost completely. I heat it a lot, I thought it would get the silver flowing and mixing. It that wrong? How do I get it to stay on the surface and still get crakles?
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