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2012-08-27, 8:13am
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Oh Jamie, I was typing as you were posting. My Effetre clear/purple sparkles didn't even make it to the cleaning stage before they cracked. They were still on the mandrels. The blue sparkley/Effetre clear ones were all fine. You were using the new Zephyr on the one that survived?
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2012-08-27, 8:17am
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I don't know how new the batch is, but it's new to me. This batch of seconds came with my speckle colors last week. I don't think it had a date on them.
I think the only reason it is still alive is because I used a thin core of Zephyr under it. I don't know why I did it, because even if it survives, I'll never trust it enough to be sold.
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2012-08-27, 8:19am
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Ok, I'll test with my Zephyr. Not sure on the date but I'll let you know.
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2012-08-27, 8:22am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jamie lynne
even if it survives, I'll never trust it enough to be sold.
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Same here. I guess I just wasted 40 bucks plus some shipping. And it was so beautiful 
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2012-08-27, 8:25am
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Cool, Suzy! Can't wait for your results. Maybe there's hope...
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2012-08-27, 8:30am
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I can try Aether and Reich clear today to see if it will fit with one of them. I think that is the extent of my clear collection.
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2012-08-27, 8:41am
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By the time you're done testing, you'll have run out of glass! Thanks for trying. If there's one that does work, I'll buy it just to be able to use the purple sparkley.
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2012-08-27, 8:45am
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Probably. 
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2012-08-27, 10:14am
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I would email Jed and let him know this is happening to you, too. He knows which zephyr is going to work the best with the purple speckled.
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2012-08-27, 11:58am
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OP-507
Every pot of glass we make, including test batches and clears, are tested for compatibility against Effetre clear. Our tolerances are +/- 350 PSI, well below the safe limit of +/- 500 PSI. This means that any two of our glasses, even at opposite ends of our limits, could have a total strain of 700 PSI which is below the breaking point of 1,000 PSI.
The OP-507 (dark purple speckled luster test batch) tested at -215 PSI, which is within our standards. When Ellen let us know that her beads had cracked using Zephyr we re-tested the OP-507 against a worst case scenario batch of Zephyr. This means we selected a batch of Zephyr with the highest positive PSI in order to test against a test batch with a negative PSI. The OP-507 and Zephyr (5.26.12) strain was -441 PSI, well within our combined tolerances of 700 PSI and below the breaking point of 1,000 PSI.
For whatever reason, despite all of our testing, the OP-507 at -215 PSI is causing problems anyway. There are multiple solutions we can offer for this problem.
1. Contact us for a refund or replacement for the OP-507.
2. We can help you determine the best fitting Zephyr or Aether for OP-507 that is likely already in your studio. If you bought Zephyr or Aether from us, contact us to review the PSI of each of the batch dates you have and we can recommend the best fit. We keep records of what batch date we ship to you so, as long as you haven’t mixed multiple orders together, we know what batch date(s) you have.
3. If you don’t already have the best fitting Zephyr or Aether, put in an order requesting a batch date that is the best fit for OP-507.
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2012-08-27, 12:20pm
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Jayne and Jaime, Do you have Aether?
This is OP507 Purple Sparkly encased in Aether with no problem and Aether doesn't turn it green:
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2012-08-27, 3:47pm
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Am I the only one who has had a cracking issue with TL 478?
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2012-08-27, 6:03pm
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I don't have any Aether, Hayley; but I'm going to put in an order for some Zephyr on Friday (payday)!
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2012-08-27, 6:27pm
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Well using Aether sounds like a better plan. I'm lazy 
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2012-08-27, 6:42pm
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I love that they keep records.
I really really want some of this glass, I hope it's sorted. I also want the blue, is that sold out or did it never make it to the site yet?
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2012-08-28, 5:41am
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I have encased a bunch of OP-507 beads 2 weeks ago with Zephyr. Some were my test bead pictures earlier in the thread. They are all still fine. I used Zephyr and effetre clear. No cracks..... Still watching them but they look fine..... Not sure of the batches I have. I have put them aside so I can check them again in a month. I don't want them going out the door if they are fragile due to compatibility problems... but they sure look fine...
Can you post pictures of the broken beads?
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2012-08-28, 6:45am
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Here's a quick and dirty picture of my cracked beads. The first ones I made were large-hole beads and fell apart. These are the ones I made with another batch of zephyr that I had that I thought would work. It didn't. I believe the ones that aren't cracked are made with the batch of zephyr that Jed sent me.
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2012-08-28, 7:04am
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My OP 507 bead encased with TAG Clarity still is looking good.
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2012-08-28, 8:15am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elizabeth Beads
My OP 507 bead encased with TAG Clarity still is looking good.
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I've been using all three sparklies (alone, together, mixed with random other colors) with Clarity too, with no problems at all...
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2012-08-28, 11:10am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elizabeth Beads
Am I the only one who has had a cracking issue with TL 478?
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All of my TL 478 beads (encased with Aether and/or Zephyr) look fine. I believe they all had a core of effetre clear, if that matters at all.
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2012-08-28, 8:22pm
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Thanks Lori. Guess I'll have to take the plunge and make a second bead and see what happens. 
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2012-08-29, 7:42am
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My purple speckle with Aether encasement beads are cracking, too. So bummed. This is beautiful glass.
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2012-08-29, 8:43am
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Shoot! I'm sorry that the aether beads are cracking too.
I tried one OP-507 bead with clarity today. We'll see what happens.
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2012-08-29, 12:12pm
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Quote:
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My purple speckle with Aether encasement beads are cracking, too. So bummed. This is beautiful glass. |
Rats. I'm hoping the Zephyr will work. The purple speckled is so pretty I don't want to give up yet!
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2012-08-30, 12:11am
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IL 436 stringer over dark ivory not encased
I love this glass the oil slick colors are fantastic!
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2012-08-30, 8:43am
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Quote:
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I tried one OP-507 bead with clarity today. We'll see what happens.
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The TAG Clarity and OP-507 bead came out of the kiln with no cracks. I'll monitor it for a few weeks.
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2012-08-30, 1:11pm
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What is that super silvery one??? 
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I made a dozen beads the other night using the 2 dark speckled colors.
3 of them cracked - they were the purple speckled.
The only other glass I used was plain old Effetre clear
Here are some of the beads that survived.
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2012-08-30, 2:18pm
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The super silvery one is the speckled blue, reduced.
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2012-08-30, 2:29pm
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Oh my...oh.my.
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2012-08-30, 3:26pm
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I did a couple OP-507 purple speckle today, no other glass, reduced. My test one was awesome, there are a couple others in the kiln now.
They OP-511 look great Jayne.
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