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2011-06-11, 12:37pm
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Difference In Ivories
Happy Saturday (on this side of the world, anyway)!
Can you please tell me the working differences between the ivories, effetre dk ivory and lt ivory; vetrofond ivory, and any other 104 coe ivory type beings out there?
is one brand or type more reactionary than others?
is one more stable or does not react than others?
thanks
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2011-06-11, 1:34pm
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Oh Rowyn, I'm very happy you ask this question.
I mixed up my dark effetre an vetrofond dark ivories.
One makes the wonderful silver fuming effects, the other one just turns grey without webbing.
I'd be happy to know witch is the nice one for the next order 
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2011-06-11, 2:00pm
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Every batch is slightly different, so there's no hard and fast rule; generally speaking, though, the dark ivories are more reactive than the light ivories. Some batches of dark ivory web, and others don't.
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2011-06-11, 4:39pm
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thanks Kalera,
I'd love to hear which are people's favourites and why, effetre, cim, vetrofond?
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2011-06-11, 6:47pm
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I think it depends on what you want to do with it! I love Effetre dark ivory for its webbing and reactive qualities. But sometimes I don't want to use it because of its webbing and reactive qualities.
I love love love Fossil, for it's streakiness and reactiveness.
Wait. I love all glass. They are all my favorite.
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2011-06-11, 7:19pm
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haa haa haa ha! me, too.
I don't know what I want to do with it. I'm still in the playing phase.
what is curdled ivory?
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2011-06-11, 7:28pm
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Curdled ivory was a particular batch of Effetre dark ivory from a couple of years ago. A lot of people found it to be more reactive and easier to web than regular Effetre dark ivory. I go through pounds of Eff. DI as my style is organic. I find it more reactive than Vetrofond and with cycles of cooling and heating can get the curdled look quite nicely.
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2011-06-12, 1:38pm
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There have even been some Ivory odds over the years...Pale Ivory, it looks almost white and Transluscent Ivory. My favorite although not called an Ivory is Sandstone, I like it with silver glass because it doesn't curdle.
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2011-06-12, 6:33pm
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hmmm, thanks....I just used vetrofond ivory, dk and light and I LIKE it. Is crurdling different than webbing? what's the difference?
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2011-06-12, 6:50pm
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Curdling vs webbing: I think it mostly depends on where you work in the flame. I get a more organic 'curdle' if I let the Dark Ivory cool a bit and then reintroduce to the flame, but don't overheat. With a little flame play I can eliminate alot of the variations, if I want, but I like them! I don't think of curdling and webbing as being much different, just visually textured. Kind of aged...
Effetre DI is very soft, the lighter seems stiffer to work.
Effetre Dark ivory is really bad whenever I use reduction frits, it seems to burn and gets very ugly, but the Light Ivory from Vetro can take it, and is wonderful...if you can get it. I recently bought some from another artist via the mail, but what it actually was, was Extra Light Olive, which I don't know much about. It looks nearly white and yellows to a very dramatic shade when using and reducing Aurae.
Best advice: Because the ivories are so variable, be sure you mark them when they come in!! Hope this helps some!
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2011-06-13, 1:16am
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There is a very nice czech glass (Ornela) Ivory, which does not react with silver or turquoise like the others, getting no black lines. But it gets lines in itself, like the halos you get in coppergreen when putting RO on it. I love it as a base for frit or multicolor or any silverglass!
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2011-06-13, 6:51am
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Czech Ivory? Oh nooooo, now I need to get more glass
I like the way that sounds, thanks Verena. what a pretty bead. I'm guessing RO is rubino?
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2011-06-13, 7:28am
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Sorry Rowyn, yes RO is rubino oro.
Just be sure you get the ivory with the number 8352, there is a dark version also, which does react with copper and silver.
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2011-06-13, 7:31am
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ok, thanks....
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2011-06-13, 9:29am
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Is alabaster ivory similar to the regular ivories? Maybe I'll just melt something, & see what happens.
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2011-06-13, 5:29pm
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Verena, I have one rod of 83522, is that the dark or the light? I don't know the czech #'s yet. I got it in a sampler, I don't even know where to go to buy czech glass, YET, lol.
thank you all, so much again.
Eileen, I don't know what alabaster ivory is....do you mean pastel ivory or the different alabaster whites? I'm still trying to figure those out, too. In fact I see another thread starting, lol
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2011-06-13, 5:38pm
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I have only used the effetre ivory and as a newbie I can say it is one of the few colors I have not burned! lol
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2011-06-13, 5:41pm
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It's just marked Alabaster Ivory, I haven't tried to use it yet. I did notice last week that I had a rod of white that seemed a bit less opague than the other ones, so maybe that was alabaster white, I don't know, they weren't marked.
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2011-06-13, 8:43pm
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Rowyn, this is the light ivory.
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2011-06-14, 8:30am
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Vetro Light ivory for me--and now I can't GET it anymore! Grrrr!!!
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2011-06-14, 3:52pm
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The Effetre Alabaster ivory is different. It is a translucent and even color (whereas the regular line is striated somewhat). Anyone got a pic?
I'd post a pic but I'm in the middle of packing up all my glass and have finished with the effetre and vetrofond colors.
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