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2011-11-08, 7:41pm
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Streaky stringers?
I have seen these called by this name at Avenue Beads and by other names in other places, and I am wondering how you make your own.
Seems like they give a more mottled effect then twisties or stringers made with frit and I'd like to be able to achieve that.
Do you just make a striped cane like when doing murrini and pull it out to a stringer, or is there more to it then that?
Any tips or hints would be appreciated!
Erik
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2011-11-08, 8:06pm
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Are you talking about silvered stringers? Like the Ivory that goes all streaky from fuming, as well as having the silver blobs through them?
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2011-11-08, 9:33pm
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I'm not sure if they have silver in them, or not. You can see what they are on avenue beads.com. They are a combination of different colors so they make a streaky mottled multi-color appearance. Very organic looking.
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2011-11-08, 10:38pm
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You can melt a round ball on the end of a rod, about the size of a peanut M&M, and add stripes to it, from one end to the other. Get it really hot and the start twisting it, but don't pull yet. Twist it to mix the colors some a few times, and then pull like you are pulling it into a twisty. It will be rough and gnarly and curved maybe but don't worry about that.
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2011-11-08, 10:49pm
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Aaaah.
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2011-11-09, 7:10am
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2011-11-09, 8:34am
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Just want to clarify my intentions here...
I posted this in an effort to learn how to do what I thought was a standard technique. However, I am now told that this may be a specific product/idea/invention from Avenue beads, and not something everyone does.
If so, I want to be clear that I am (was not) trying to copy his exact product, just the general technique - if it is common knowledge.
My impression was that this is not a proprietary technique, but rather something that lots of people know how to do, however if it is in fact proprietary, I would not want to "steal it". The last thing I want to do is take advantage of another artist's hard work inventing a technique. I'm always happy to pay for tut's or instruction, or just come up with my own take on something.
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2011-11-10, 12:17am
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Originally Posted by Signguy
Just want to clarify my intentions here...
I posted this in an effort to learn how to do what I thought was a standard technique. However, I am now told that this may be a specific product/idea/invention from Avenue beads, and not something everyone does.
If so, I want to be clear that I am (was not) trying to copy his exact product, just the general technique - if it is common knowledge.
My impression was that this is not a proprietary technique, but rather something that lots of people know how to do, however if it is in fact proprietary, I would not want to "steal it". The last thing I want to do is take advantage of another artist's hard work inventing a technique. I'm always happy to pay for tut's or instruction, or just come up with my own take on something.
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I didn't get my marbled stringer/cane technique from anyone, so go ahead and use it. I've been making my swirled canes and stringers for the last nine years. I'm 98% self taught and what little I did learn from someone else was basic techniques from books and videos. No one "owns" a technique, so don't worry about that.
Years ago I got ticked off when someone was "copying" my type of marbled swirled donut round beads and this person even copied most of the words in my ebay descriptions. I posted about it on here and got a severe lashing from several members about how I "don't own a technique". So, I'm over it and I thought you should know the same. For the last several years I have thought about marketing my canes and stringers, but that would be a lot of hard work and it wouldn't pay as much as what I get for my beads.'
Oh, a hint on working with them: you get much better results using a Hothead torch. Hotter torches melt the swirls in too much.
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2011-11-10, 12:32am
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an interesting way of getting streaky stringer is to make a gather and roll it in enamel then melt and pull - you can use more than one colour for a nice effect
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2011-11-10, 6:20am
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People that sell the canes got their recipes from experimenting with colors. You can play around & come up with some interesting effects as well. There are many, many, many great combos for making canes.
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2011-11-11, 12:31am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PerfectDeb
an interesting way of getting streaky stringer is to make a gather and roll it in enamel then melt and pull - you can use more than one colour for a nice effect
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Yes, I agree. I also use frits I'm not too fond of. (yes I have some lol)
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