David it is 2 pieces of metal or somthing shaped around the mandrel then revited and welded together.
Nicole thats not a bad idea!
Karen that might be what it is,
Sue's I went to your etsy and looked at your ribbon beads awesome eye candy you have going on there. I think I will dip it and play it with and see what I come up with. Hey if I can't get it to work making ribbon beads I could go back to Nicole's idea.
Thanks everyone.