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2011-12-26, 5:27pm
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Sasha's Oil Slick
ya not the best pic sorry...the pinky color I believe is sasha's oil slick in the third heart...other two are oil slick over clear.
What am I doing wrong with this color??
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2011-12-26, 5:59pm
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Never heard of sasha's oil slick. Heart on right looks like NS Green Exotic.
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2011-12-26, 10:10pm
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These colors are best worked oxidized, then reduced once most of the shaping is done. Or, encased in clear.
What you're doing wrong depends on what you're aiming to do. What do you dislike about your current results?
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2011-12-27, 8:57am
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When we were at Glass Stock West they did a demo on TAG Oli SLick and the gentlemen that was doing the demo flash cooled the glass in an ICE CREAM FREEZER and then reheated it 12 or 15 times to get the great colors.
He said that flash cooling was the most importnat part of using Oil SLick. I bought 1/2 pound and have yet to use it, but it is on the list to try in 2012
Mike...
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2011-12-27, 10:02am
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well....
is a piece made with these stuffs.
Is the stock photo.
And what I'm getting is a muddy brownish color...or that muddy pink.
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2011-12-27, 10:35am
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0o flash freezing...wouldnt that shatter them?
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2011-12-27, 10:44am
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flash cooling ... put in freezer but don't lay on floor ... prop up. I just take mine outside in the winter and way around. Does the same thing!!
I have a couple rods of this as well and have had no success with it. I even got tips directly from Paul at TAG and couldn't get any color. I gave up for the moment. Too much other glass to play with to invest the time right now.
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2011-12-27, 12:29pm
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2011-12-28, 2:22pm
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It's a typical silver color with a few other things. Mainly, the silver. Work it like an Exotic, which is to say like Amber Purple - really hot, then do funky stuff to it for striking and reduction.
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2011-12-29, 9:34am
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OK when I work amber purple... I turn up the oxygen...turn it clear while on the rod and as I'm shaping doing what ever I keep burning the haze stuff that comes back off. Final shape...let it cool a bit..reheat to burn off haze again. kiln. Most of the time get pretty good results.
This one...I do that I get muddy brown... Just keep the oxygen up and blast the wholly heck out of it..I get muddy green.
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2011-12-29, 4:40pm
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Working this color is like an exotic, or a GA color like Amazon Night or an Exotic. Actually, the colors you have look a lot like Amazon Night or Exotic Carnival. They have a lot of silver, plus also some copper. It's the copper that reduces to pink in these formulas.
The next step would be to intentionally reduce the surface. That green stage is unencased, right? That would be a silver unstruck, copper well oxidized stage. You can get the rainbowy reduction effects over that stage pretty easily. It's possible to coax it out of the more reduced state, like when it looks salmony pink, but that's different.
What you'd want to do to the green stuff is let it cool down a bit, turn down your flame. Put the end piece into reductiony flame a bit on the tip, and heat it for a while. Check it out under a light. You should see a haze of funky colors develop. If not, try an even more gassy flame. Experiment with turning the knobs all over, letting the piece cool down, and reheating it in a reduction flame to see what happens.
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2012-01-01, 9:59pm
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FWIW, the stock photo we use on our site shows the color struck ON the haze; Paul does not burn it off, he develops the haze, then cools, then strikes color on that surface.
The top piece was made by Sasha Hess, he's the one who did the demo with the ice cream freezer. He tends to work it super-hot with lots of oxy. He has also reported kiln-striking this color at times.
So, while it is in the Amber/Purple family it's not like your typical A/P. Looks like you are at least half-way there?
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2012-07-29, 2:29pm
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i been looking for this glass does anyone know were i can find it
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2012-07-29, 2:32pm
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It is TAG and is available directly from them or probably most of their distributors.
I just checked two of their distributors and didn't find it. Call or email TAG ... email jenny (at) taglass (dot) com
She can hook you up with it!!
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Originally Posted by kenpnunn
i been looking for this glass does anyone know were i can find it
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2012-07-29, 4:11pm
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The flash cool is key. But also the super heating. This color is basically the most saturated of the Mai tai series. I use a fan for the flash cool. Anyways get the haze burnt off then supercool it. You will get mocha color for the first few strikes flame or kiln so what I do is just put whatever I've made with this color in the back of the kiln for a week or two and then after about the 6-8th strike the purples will come. Another color I throw in the back is the Mai tai pink. Kind of a pain but the colors are so awesome I do still use them
Quite a bit. The other thing is to use with simax clear, schott produces milky tones with all striking colors
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2012-07-29, 4:24pm
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Throw those pieces back in the kiln and you will be pleasantly surprised
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2012-07-29, 4:41pm
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thanks
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2012-07-29, 8:33pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kenpnunn
i been looking for this glass does anyone know were i can find it
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Sasha's Oil Slick available at Frantz
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2012-08-02, 10:56am
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Originally Posted by MagpieGlass
It is TAG and is available directly from them or probably most of their distributors.
I just checked two of their distributors and didn't find it. Call or email TAG ... email jenny (at) taglass (dot) com
She can hook you up with it!!
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I was just there at TAG doing some major shopping they have Shasha's oil slick in odds and seconds if you want to save some money while expeirmenting with it
just give Jenny a call she is very helpfull and will often discount the glass.
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2012-08-06, 12:43am
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i talked to jenny she was great shes going to get me odds but she says shosa oil slick is pretty good as a second too.
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2012-08-06, 3:06am
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i talked to jenny she was great shes going to get me odds but she says shosa oil slick is pretty good as a second too.
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Jenny will never steer you wrong.
I buy pretty much all my TAG glass directly from them.
Super helpful, great customer service and Jenny throws in free samples.
(I also "seem" to get better color from the rods purchased directly ... don't know why -- maybe it is all the good karma that comes with them).
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2012-08-07, 11:18pm
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yes, Laura, that's it -- I wave my wand over each box before it leaves the factory. LOL!
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2012-08-08, 9:44pm
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lol thats a nice wand to have
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