frit pendants made with molds

[rverk47]

has anybody tried to make pendants with the mini molds and fine frit? i want to try it but haven't found much info on it..anybody have any suggestions where i can get more info on it..thx

[FlamingFrog]

Hi Renee!

Here is a tutorial on making a frit pendant. I haven't tried it yet but it looks like fun.

Lonni


http://www.jsavinacollection.com/pag...ntTutorial.php

[ptyser]

Where can I find the mini molds?
Patricia Carberry
www.illusionjewelry.com

[FlamingFrog]

Hi Patricia!

Delphi sells some.

http://www.delphiglass.com/fusing/molds/

Lonni

[FlamingFrog]

I thought these looked really interesting.

http://www.cookinwithglass.com/channel%20molds.htm

I wonder if you could use a bead release coated mandrel instead of the wooden thingies because what I would like to do would require firing 2 times and I think the wooden thingies wood burn up the first time.

Has anyone used these before?

Lonni

[Phoenix]

I haven't use those- but I've got an order going in as of this weekend- I'll let you know after I do some playing

[Listenup]

What you're talking about is called Pâte de Verre. Molds don't need to be complicated - you can make your own out of plaster (yes, plaster does hold up in the kiln). If you GOOGLE "Pâte de Verre" you can come up with some good tutorials on it. I've only done it once or twice so I'm hardly an expert and have already told you about all I really know about it.

[rverk47]

thanks for the info, i ordered some basics and i'll let ya know how it works.,.thx

[beadgoodies]

Originally Posted by rverk47

thanks for the info, i ordered some basics and i'll let ya know how it works.,.thx

If it works out, do show us what you make! I'd love to see some more of these things. I've never used frit like this before. Sounds interesting!!

Candy

[Karen Hardy]

Couldn't resist.
I ordered a few molds from Delphi.
They are having a bogo sale right now
(buy one-get one at 50% off).

[misfit]

I make molds and provided you're not looking for the extremely complecated, drop me a line and I'll see what I can hook people up with. Single peice molds are very simple to do. 2 peice are a bit of a pain. on average the more parts the nastier to make. they're not exspensive to make. a simple single peice mini mold with 4 cabs in it runs around $5.00.

Alan.

[nitefire]

Originally Posted by misfit

I make molds and provided you're not looking for the extremely complecated, drop me a line and I'll see what I can hook people up with. Single peice molds are very simple to do. 2 peice are a bit of a pain. on average the more parts the nastier to make. they're not exspensive to make. a simple single peice mini mold with 4 cabs in it runs around $5.00.

Alan.

Hi Alan
Do you have any pictures of molds that you have already made. I would really like to see some. I have a glass sand dollar that i love, and would like to possibly make something like it.
Thanks
Elaine

[misfit]

Originally Posted by nitefire

Hi Alan
Do you have any pictures of molds that you have already made. I would really like to see some. I have a glass sand dollar that i love, and would like to possibly make something like it.
Thanks
Elaine

I'm working out a mold with (6) 12x18 oval cabs in it. I can send you a pic via e-mail when I finish pouring it. I'm also taking a peek around to see what other shapes I can come up with without sacrificing a stone I care about.

I don't suggest making molds from anything you care about. It frequently/ussually destroys the original. what I would suggest is making a latex mold of your original, pouring a wax of it and making a mold of the wax.
the benifit of this is the latex will not destroy the original and will clean off easily. the down side is a good latex to make the mold with runs $200.00/gallon. the less exspensive latex I've tried does not have the same quality as far as crisp detail or for holding up to the heat of wax pouring.


Alan.

[bead crazy]

Alan could you use some fimo clay to make the pattern you want then do the plaster in it?

[misfit]

Originally Posted by bead crazy

Alan could you use some fimo clay to make the pattern you want then do the plaster in it?

yes I can make a mold from a master made with fimo. it would have to have NO undercuts at all, or it will not release from the mold, and neither would anything cast in it- such as a glass cab. but sure fimo would work fine if you wished to create a master so that you would have a mold pattern that no one else had.

I've also carved masters from jewlers wax.

Just make sure your finished master has the finish you want from the mold.

Alan.

[beadworkstudio]

You can use wooden skewers with a heavy coat of mandrel release, and you can fire the piece more than once. I fused a sheet like this and cut it into pendants, then refired to polish the edges. The wood burns out on the first firing, but the bead release holds the holes open on the second firing. I'm not sure how well it would work if you took it to full fusing temps, though.

[nitefire]

Originally Posted by Listenup

What you're talking about is called Pâte de Verre. Molds don't need to be complicated - you can make your own out of plaster (yes, plaster does hold up in the kiln). If you GOOGLE "Pâte de Verre" you can come up with some good tutorials on it. I've only done it once or twice so I'm hardly an expert and have already told you about all I really know about it.

I have some old ceramic plaster type molds. I will have to try this in one of them and see what happens. I am willing to sacrifice at least one mold anyway.
Elaine

[Karen Hardy]

This is my first time doing this. I got that tutorial (awesome)
and I bought a book on Pate De Verre which looks pretty good.
Bought a shitload of powdered frit (96) from Pacific Art Glass
(and some awesome dichroic frit from CBS).
..plus I have a boatload of 96 frit (including some of yours, Candy!).

I mixed up some of that mold goop and I've been painting it on.
I've got about 6 layers now (is that stuff supposed to be so thin?).

Next - I'm going to fire these in my kiln at 500 for approx 5-10 min
to "set" the mold goop. Then I'm going to go to town and experiment.

Do these have to be recoated EVERY time you use them?????
Blech.

I'm demoing at Winship in Torrance this Saturday (come on down!!!)
so I'll probably do this on monday.

[FlamingFrog]

Hey Karen! What kind of mold making material did you get?

Lonni

[misfit]

for those people interested and waiting photos. I'm regrinding the backs flat on my masters since their was a tiny bit of an undercut that showwed up in two of the cabs not releasing from the mold. <sigh> really can't stress how important it is to have *NO* undercuts at all.

A.

[rverk47]

Hey Karen, what book did you buy on Pate De Verre..thx

[Karen Hardy]

Originally Posted by rverk47

Hey Karen, what book did you buy on Pate De Verre..thx

Glass Kiln Casting with Colour de Verre by Jayne Persico.
It had the best instructions and the best pictures of all the ones
I looked at.

[Karen Hardy]

Originally Posted by barbie4364

Hey Karen! What kind of mold making material did you get?

Lonni

HA! I'm not crazy enough to make my own molds (yet).
I went to Delphi and bought three molds.
The round one (4 cabs) the square one (4 cabs) and
a pendant teardrop one. Also the kiln wash stuff they
recommended.

[rverk47]

I don't want to make my own molds either, i hope that is not what the book is about i ordered it from amazon. i bought my molds at delphi, i just want more info on glass fusing, and making pendants with frit. anybody know where is a good place to buy plain white frit more than just a few ounce?

[Karen Hardy]

I bought a bunch of system 96 powder frit from Pacific Art Glass in Torrance.
I believe that they were on sale at the time.

Here's the 4 lb jars
http://www.pacificartglass.com/index...cts&cat_id=497

I didn't see any white there, but that doesn't mean they don't have it.
You might give them a call...

..and no, the book isn't about making your own molds. It's full of different
projects (mostly large scale, but made with smaller components). It also has some wonderful color blending techniques in several of the tutorials.

[ArtcoInc]

Originally Posted by Karen Hardy

Glass Kiln Casting with Colour de Verre by Jayne Persico.
It had the best instructions and the best pictures of all the ones
I looked at.

Do you have an ISBN number, or anything, for this book? I can't find it. The only books Jayne has listed on her website are "Innovative Adornments" and "Jayne Persico Presents Kiln Formed Bracelets" (both of which I have), plus the videos she did with Vicki Payne.

Malcolm

[rverk47]

ok i made my first batch and there are a lot of bubbles, anybody know how to prevent this..for the base on half of them i used a small grade frit and on the other half fine, like confectionate sugar, and they all have bubbles, picture to follow, after i get the kids off to school..

[rverk47]

I can't figure out how to attach pictures it always says i have exceeded some limit..i don't know how to make the picture different so it will work..any suggestions..

[jessedog]

Karen,

I'll be sending out some of that boro frit and binder today we discussed at the demo last Saturday. Let me know what you think. Thanks Karen, and thanks for your participation at our open house last weekend. Let's do it again eh?

Originally Posted by Karen Hardy

Couldn't resist.
I ordered a few molds from Delphi.
They are having a bogo sale right now
(buy one-get one at 50% off).

[Karen Hardy]

That was the most fun I've had with my clothes on .
I would love to do it again!!!

Originally Posted by jessedog

Karen,

I'll be sending out some of that boro frit and binder today we discussed at the demo last Saturday. Let me know what you think. Thanks Karen, and thanks for your participation at our open house last weekend. Let's do it again eh?