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2011-12-22, 7:35am
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What do you use for a large frit tray?
Anyone out there know where I can purchase large frit trays? I'm wanting to make jars (actually more like tumblers) and Christmas ornaments.
I have a video where they talk about using those disposable aluminum food containers to store frit, but you can't use those to roll your hot glass in, right? I know aluminum has kind of a low melting point, but not sure how it compares to the glass that would be rolled in it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
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2011-12-22, 7:38am
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Oh, guess I should add, I've found some on some glass blowing sites, but they're all out of stock....
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2011-12-22, 7:44am
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Some of the best frit trays I have, I got at antique stores. When my Mom comes for a visit, she always likes to go to the antiques stores, and there are a lot of them in my little tourist trap town, so I have my eyes peeled for brass trays, etc. My favorite is an old brass ashray that has zodiac signs around it and works perfectly. And it was $4.
I also use flat shaped glass jars with lids, great for frit storage and use in one.
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2011-12-22, 7:48am
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Ah, good to know! Never thought about old brass trays - thanks for the tip!
So the glass jars, you have enough frit in there so that your piece is small in comparison to the size of the jar and the quantity of frit, right? So you just kind of touch your hot piece onto the frit to pick it up, right?
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2011-12-22, 7:51am
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Oh! These look like they might work good for ornaments!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHINESE-VINT...item1c2209f858
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2011-12-22, 7:59am
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Aluminum won't burst into flames or anything (though actually it is flammable at fairly low temp, with enough oxygen).
A dollar store near my house offers a wide array of stainless steel trays and dishes. Gravy boats work well - the spot can handle a punty or be used to pour. You can also find them at restaurant suppliers.
It's important that it be not too deep.
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2011-12-22, 8:10am
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I like the dollar store idea! Thank you!
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2011-12-22, 8:36am
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yeah, one thing I always forget is to make sure there's a good way to easily get the frit back out and into the bottle. Round trays (like candle plates) kind suck from that angle. It doesn't stop me, but I regret it later when I'm trying to pour back into a 4 oz bottle LOL
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2011-12-22, 8:47am
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Hahaha - yeah, awhile back I finally went and bought a plastic funnel (like one that you use to pour oil into your car) and keep it in my shop. It makes things so much easier!
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2011-12-22, 9:29am
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I like the brass ashtrays from ebay, I am always on the look out at second hand stores and garage sales.
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2011-12-22, 9:34am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lacey
Anyone out there know where I can purchase large frit trays? I'm wanting to make jars (actually more like tumblers) and Christmas ornaments.
I have a video where they talk about using those disposable aluminum food containers to store frit, but you can't use those to roll your hot glass in, right? I know aluminum has kind of a low melting point, but not sure how it compares to the glass that would be rolled in it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
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I went to the tips, and techniques forum, typed in frit trays in the "search this forum box" and there were lots and lots of threads with great ideas. Give it a try and see if anything there would be perfect for you.
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2011-12-22, 9:39am
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Great idea I didn't know you could be that specific with the searches, thanks for letting us know.
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2011-12-22, 11:23am
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At the flea market I found a set of 5 small stainless steel bowls for $5.
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2011-12-22, 1:40pm
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Quote:
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Hahaha - yeah, awhile back I finally went and bought a plastic funnel (like one that you use to pour oil into your car) and keep it in my shop. It makes things so much easier!
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Blow a funnel!
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2011-12-22, 1:42pm
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I don't like frit trays. I like storing my frit in wide-mouth jars.
Then, when I want to use it, I scoop some out with a large spoon, roll the bead in the frit in the bowl of the spoon, and then just empty the spoon back into the jar. No mess at all, and no need to pour anything anywhere and stir up any dust.
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2011-12-22, 1:48pm
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Great idea I didn't know you could be that specific with the searches, thanks for letting us know.
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You're welcome, LE is HUGE! and it sure helps to be able to narrow the searches down a little.
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2011-12-22, 1:53pm
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Thank you guys for all the great ideas! Now I have an idea of what to be on the look-out for. I can see how the gravy boats would work perfectly.
Thanks for the tip on searching the forums. I did that and did get a lot of good information.
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2011-12-22, 1:58pm
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Quote:
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I don't like frit trays. I like storing my frit in wide-mouth jars.
Then, when I want to use it, I scoop some out with a large spoon, roll the bead in the frit in the bowl of the spoon, and then just empty the spoon back into the jar. No mess at all, and no need to pour anything anywhere and stir up any dust.
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One needs to take into consideration the size of the piece that your putting frit on... I use this style that 6 in wide by 10 inches long. I place it in a baking pan to catch the over spill and pour it back into my jars. I only use one pound size jars.
ABR has them in stock in 2 sizes Just search frit tray.
http://www.dichroicimagery.com/produ...oducts_id=1814
I would NEVER use aluminum, but that is because of the way I work and at times have my flame right on the tray. That said I do have a powder box made of aluminum (it was a custom made gift) and I've melted the crap out of it!
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2011-12-22, 1:58pm
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Sometimes it's nice not to have to worry about breaking anything other than the piece that I'm working on - LOL
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2011-12-22, 2:00pm
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Please make sure your frit has cooled down before using your funnel. I've melted many frit jars...
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2011-12-22, 2:11pm
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Thanks for the picture loco - that's actually what I had in mind. Good idea setting it in a baking pan to catch any over spill. And good point about making sure it's cooled down. I can totally see myself doing that.
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2011-12-22, 2:19pm
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why did I not think of that ?
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2011-12-22, 2:27pm
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Careful pouring frit back into a jar... due to the hazards of colored glass dust, I'd only do that under strong ventilation, wearing a respirator, outdoors, or a combination thereof.
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2011-12-22, 3:47pm
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pie tin works great, but I LOVE my half tube one that I bought. Wheb I am doing production ornaments etc( in the past) I used a pie tin and a spatula to remound the frit as needed.
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2011-12-22, 3:49pm
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I wonder if a shallow tart pan would work? I have been having the same question. Some tart pans are deeper than others but they do seem to come in a variety of sizes. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c...l5l0&mvs=0#p=0
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2011-12-22, 4:45pm
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My gripe about the gravy boat is that if you have something larger and have a handle on one end and a hollow blow tube on the other, you can't get into the gravy boat. The half tube style Loco shows is one of the best ways to go for that situation.
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2011-12-22, 5:43pm
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Quote:
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One needs to take into consideration the size of the piece that your putting frit on... I use this style that 6 in wide by 10 inches long.
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If you know anyone with a sheet metal shop you can make those really inexpensively. A $150.00 sheet of stainless (4x10) will yield 24 or more large trays as described depending on your stretch out (I assumed a very conservative 24" stretch out). The tough part is the curve if you don't have a roller but you can do it in a break too...
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2011-12-23, 10:16am
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Careful pouring frit back into a jar... due to the hazards of colored glass dust, I'd only do that under strong ventilation, wearing a respirator, outdoors, or a combination thereof.
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That, among other things, is why I have a powder box. Safety is the only thing equal to fun in my world...
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If you know anyone with a sheet metal shop you can make those really inexpensively. A $150.00 sheet of stainless (4x10) will yield 24 or more large trays as described depending on your stretch out (I assumed a very conservative 24" stretch out). The tough part is the curve if you don't have a roller but you can do it in a break too...
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Gawd I don't need that many of them LOL!! I've got three or four of them around here and have given more of them away to friends. I pick them up at shows / events for less than the price stated.
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2011-12-23, 12:23pm
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Costco sells quarter size aluminum baking pans for about $4.00, about 9" X 12" or so. I assume you're talking a pan to roll up the frit rather than store it?
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