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2013-03-13, 5:37am
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Sooo.... it's been a while..
Sooo... it has been a while since I was last able to get my torch set up and melt some glass (like 6yrs)....I am just now getting set up again and am almost ready to pee myself I am sooo excited about being able to get back into my art again. I have been lurking around here again for a few weeks now, and must say that it still has that feeling of home.
Anyway.. being out of things for so long I know how they change. I am looking to make an order for some things needed and would like to know what is a good all around clear glass that works well with most other glass in the 104 range these days??
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2013-03-13, 10:21am
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Not sure, The answer isn't clear. I think you need to PM jamie lynne and ask her
There are half a dozen clear threads asking the same question, have you tried search?
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2013-03-13, 11:51am
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oh shit another "what 104 clear is better" thread lol.
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2013-03-13, 1:15pm
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Everyone's mileage may vary, of course, but Uroboros has a new COE 104 clear that I've been using for a few months, and I love it. I haven't run into any compatibility issues or anything! Knock on wood. It's not too pricey, either.
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2013-03-13, 3:05pm
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thank you all you for the posts.
yes i searched the threads.... but couldn't really find anything current.
i see that this is a touchy subject and am now regretting posting it
i used to like Ventrofondt but i see that is no longer made.
Precision Diamond Clear worked well for what little bit i could afford at the time, but i haven't seen that either.
i am looking at Elvis Clarity Super Clear, but very expensive. they have Uroboro as well but that is not in stock and i was hoping to only have to do one order... but that is not looking like it is going to happen.
again thank you for the input and i am sorry to open a tender wound, let us let it heal now.
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2013-03-13, 3:09pm
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I like Effetre Super Clear, relatively inexpensive and good for most applications. Some people suggest a special Double Helix clear (Zephyr?) for use over silver glass.
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2013-03-13, 3:20pm
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Ditto-Elizabeth
Effetre Crystal (Super) Clear 006 which is inexpensive, and I use Double Helix Zephyr but it is a lot more expensive.
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2013-03-13, 3:30pm
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oh thankyou! i was wondering if anyone had any kind of luck with the Effetre Crystal Clear. good to know that some do. and i will check out the Double Helix Zephyr for when i use the more expensive silver glass. good to know.
shheess who would have thought getting back into this would take such a learning curve "again"! lol
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2013-03-13, 3:56pm
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You can get the DH Zephyr at a better price on their seconds page. And since their seconds are better than some others firsts LOL it's a great deal.
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2013-03-13, 4:53pm
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thanks for the tip! much appreciated.
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2013-03-13, 5:18pm
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FWIW, I also use Effetre Super Clear for a less expensive option and Zephyr or TAG Clarity for silver glass.
I do want to mention that I just pickled my first batch of Super Clear.
I tried it because I am one of those people who needs to see something to believe it. (Plus, I already had the silver pickle on hand because I work with metals. That made it easy to experiment.)
Well, whoa doggies!!!! What a difference pickling made! I got so inspired that I pickled every rod of Super Clear that I had--stringers up to 12mm. I am an enthusiastic and devout convert! Hallelujah!
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2013-03-13, 5:55pm
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I agree with the others. I like Effetre Super Clear and I also use Zephyr for Silver Glass. I am thinking of trying pickling after hearing so many positive comments. I'm glad that you are able to torch again!
Edit to add: Do you know The Glass Shoppe in Ottawa? If not, then it's a must - Grace can set you up with some lovely Lauscha glass!
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2013-03-13, 6:09pm
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wd2crv, thanks i am so happy that i will be able to do it soon. i can hardly wait. there is that evil little side of me that says screw the safety and just melt some glass **whisperwhisper*** but the fear in me keeps me on track to make sure that i have the proper set up before i start my torch.... humph..... lol
no! i did not know we had a glass shop in town that carries lampwork supplies!!! oh oh i know where i am heading tomorrow!! lalala
so it seem that the going clear has become clearer for me now, and i so much appreciate all your help that you all have been giving me. ya'll are the best!
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2013-03-13, 6:37pm
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Zephyr here.
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2013-03-14, 2:37am
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fwiw, zephyr seconds are great. can't even tell they're seconds.
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2013-03-14, 5:35am
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thank you for the advice on the seconds. it took me a bit to find it on their site but i did. and i think i will be checking that out.
zephyr is going to be the one i try for sure.
i really appreciate all the tips and advice you all have been giving me. hugs
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2013-03-14, 9:04pm
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Safety first Mbrim! That is really important - but in the meantime, go to The Glass Shoppe and meet Grace - tell her Darryle in Toronto says hi! She's a really lovely lady and has great lampwork classes as well! She has lots of wonderful glassy things in her shop and she is right next door to Canada Bead so you will be well stocked! I envy you being so close!! Enjoy but remember safety first - get that ventilation going!
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2013-03-15, 5:42am
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thank you Darryle. i went to the Glass Shoppe yesterday what a great place. Grace is just such a good soul. i really got along very well with her and am looking forward to getting know her better and others there as well. i am so excited to know that there is a place here that i will be able to go and get a bit of a social outlet with like minded people. i am finding that has become an important part of my life that has been missing for sometime now. and now there is some place that i can go and get supplies when i want them!!! (not sure if that is good or bad) but i can do it!!!! i am looking forward to being able to take some classes there too. she has some great ppl coming as well as some local people too. can you tell i am pretty excited about this... lol
Anyway, yes safety first all the time. my venting is pretty much done. i was having a problem getting a long enough propane hose and thought that i would have to order one and wait and wait and wait for it. but yesterday Grace sent me over to where i needed to get one and i can get it today. so it looks like i will be torching in the next couple of days depending how works goes and what time i have to put into it.
thank you again Darryle for turning me onto the Glass Shoppe it was a great find.
Mary
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2013-03-15, 7:03am
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Hello Mbrim, I'm so glad you'll be melting glass soon!! After a broken wrist (a while back) I was off the torch for some time and when I finally got back it seemed I was all thumbs LOL I hope your return to the torch goes more smoothly.
--Best regards, Helene
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2013-03-15, 9:24am
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I've let the glass lie fallow three times now--twice for a few years (the second time I even sold all my glass and equipment), and recently for about 6 months. Because of the "relearning curve," even though I started torchworking over 20 years ago, I'm STILL a beginner. Well, maybe an intermediate. Thank goodness I don't expect to make any money at this!
Lee
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2013-03-15, 9:39am
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I'm so happy for you Mary! Grace is lovely and has wonderful teachers. I wish I was closer to Ottawa (I'm in Oakville, outside of Toronto) but couldn't handle all your snow!
I took a look at your website and you do very lovely work! Enjoy!
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2013-03-15, 5:06pm
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thank you Helen. i have not been able to torch for umm 6 years now. and i have been hauling the whole set up around with me through 5 moves. i have gone down the thought road of selling it during a couple moves, but am very happy that i did not sell it.
it will be interesting to see where my skill level is at now...
when i was torching i sold some jewelry made with my beads. and i have a web site that has been pretty much abandoned since i stopped torching. but i would like to think that i can get my skill back up there at some point.
wow, thank you Darryle! that is pretty cool you checked out my site. like i said it has been some time since i have done anything with it and i don't even think that e-mail works right now.... but one thing at a time i guess. first get back torching and then see what might come of the site again.
i really hope that you might be able to make it up here for a class or two that i take, it would be nice, and i am sure that Grace would be more then happy to see you!!
just a side note: they ordered the wrong size propane hose, so now i am thinking that i will just order it from where i know i will get the right stuff and stop trying to find something that works around here. so just a slight more delay in the torching.
oh and did i mention that patients is a lesson that i think i am deemed to learn in this life.....
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