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2007-11-28, 6:54am
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Goldstone Stringer....
I have tried pulling goldstone and I am using the encased goldstone in rod form. When I pull the stringer it gets very muted in the gold and not the bright shiny goldstone that I have seenin other examples. I have the ribbon but not sure how to pull that in the ribbon form.
Is there a place to purchase goldstone stringer or rod without the trans encasement? Or how do I get just the gold part of the rod to pull into a stringer? Help!
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2007-11-28, 6:56am
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There used to be. I owned a bunch. I'll try to see where I bought it. I've got pretty crummy records though. Maybe someone will post before I figure it out.
Edit: I did a quick google search and came up with Moretti and More. Maybe they have it.
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2007-11-28, 6:58am
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I think i've seen them on sale at LBSupplies.com not sure though.
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2007-11-28, 7:22am
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M&M doesn't have it (checked already) and LBS has the Goldstone mixed that Lynnie does twisties does. I am trying to find just a plain goldstone stringer with no other colors.
I would be glad to pull my own too if I can figure out how to do this and have just the pretty gold sparklies...
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2007-11-28, 7:25am
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You could try pulling stringer using the Goldstone frit.
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2007-11-28, 7:30am
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I pull goldstone stringer by attatching a chunk of goldstone (size of a large pea) to a punty, then thinly encase the chunk with clear. Then I heat the whole blob and pull. This makes a really sparkly stringer, but it can stand up to quite a lot of heat, because of the encasing. Goldstone that is not encased tends to go black.
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2007-11-28, 7:36am
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Are you using the pre-encased GS then? The problem I am having is that with the encasement already on the prefab rod when I pull it the goldstone gets spread out and it is not very sparkly.
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2007-11-28, 7:38am
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I use pure goldstone frit, then encase.
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2007-11-28, 7:39am
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Originally Posted by Måne
I pull goldstone stringer by attatching a chunk of goldstone (size of a large pea) to a punty, then thinly encase the chunk with clear. Then I heat the whole blob and pull. This makes a really sparkly stringer, but it can stand up to quite a lot of heat, because of the encasing. Goldstone that is not encased tends to go black.
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THis is what I do . . . . making your own goldstone stringers is way better than using the premade ones.
Get on Ebay and look for goldstone beads. If they're larger, you can cut them in half with your nippers. I use 1/8 mandrels as punties. Heat up the end of your mandrel and wave the piece of goldstone in the flame. Stick the goldstone to your punty, then add more if you need to get a bigger blob. Shape your blob into a barrel, encase, attach another punty and pull!!
It's also fun to encase with colors . . . . transparent red makes a beautiful sparklie red stringer 
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2007-11-28, 7:59am
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It's also fun to encase with colors . . . . transparent red makes a beautiful sparklie red stringer |
I'm having a HUGE "why didn't I think of that"-moment right now! I'm gonna try that later tonight.
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2007-11-28, 8:08am
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prefab goldstone rod & stringer is usually clear glass cased with goldstone, then again with clear. Just about everyone sells goldstone chunks to encase & pull like others have mentioned. Even a stringer of goldstone added to a twistie will show up if you pull it yourself.
Another interesting effect with casing different colors is using dark aqua to case - it makes the goldstone look silvery. -jen
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2007-11-28, 8:43am
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I'm having a HUGE "why didn't I think of that"-moment right now! I'm gonna try that later tonight.
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Almost any transparent looks great, but my favorites are topaz, rubino and blue-violet. Just punty up a chunk of goldstone, thinly encase the whole lump, heat evenly to soften it, add another punty and pull. If you pull goldstone without encasing, it tends to burn out and look muddy.
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2007-11-28, 8:48am
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Thank you so much everyone and off to buy some goldstone beads/chunks!
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2007-11-28, 9:15am
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I make mine pretty much the same as Ginny except that I use a clear rod instead of mandrel. Heat the tip of the rod and flatten it into a maria, then pick up pieces of goldstone chunks, encase in clear/transparent and pull into stringer. the bigger disc surface of a maria allows me to pick up more goldstone pieces. I also preheat my chunks in a candle warmer so they don't shock.
Asked Karen mentioned above, try encasing with Rubino, it's really pretty!
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2007-11-28, 9:36am
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Thank you as well Hayley and I have a hot plate that would work well. I think I like the maria method better as it makes for less waste of glass. I also seem to have better control with a maria for twisties as well. The diameter of the mandrel makes it more difficult when doing a twistie as opposed to pulling a stringer.
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2007-11-28, 10:48am
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You have lots of great tips on making your own stringer, Michele.
One thing I would add, is try to avoid overheating the aventurina. That is when it oxidizes and gets dark and yucky. I've bought wonderful aventurina chunks and frit size aventurina from Olympic Color Rods and Wale. Aventurina is a classic  ! I will always love it, though dichro has predominated my work for the glitz effect because it is less tempermental.
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2007-11-28, 11:33am
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oh! Pulling stringer from Dichro Ofilia? Tell me more!
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2007-11-28, 1:43pm
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I learned to pull stringer from Corina's stringer control DVD using the goldstone chunks on a punty like everyone has suggested. With the glob of gold at the end of the punty, I shape it into rod form with tweezers and then encase it with dark amethyst. This is the color that Corina suggested and my gold stone stringer turns out just perfect and pretty and very gold every time.
It's an excellent tutorial DVD if anyone needs stinger help (and to SEE someone do it!..not just photos).
Hope my little 2 cents helps!
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2007-11-28, 1:51pm
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Pulling stringer from dichro is easy. Just use a dichro on clear, cover approx an inch of the dichro coated side with clear, or a different transparent colour, and pull. Try to pull fairly thick or the dichro gets too diluted.
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2007-11-28, 1:56pm
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I learned to pull stringer from Corina's stringer control DVD using the goldstone chunks on a punty like everyone has suggested. With the glob of gold at the end of the punty, I shape it into rod form with tweezers and then encase it with dark amethyst. This is the color that Corina suggested and my gold stone stringer turns out just perfect and pretty and very gold every time.
It's an excellent tutorial DVD if anyone needs stinger help (and to SEE someone do it!..not just photos).
Hope my little 2 cents helps!
~Lynn
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2007-11-28, 2:05pm
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I have her DVD and I have skipped around and must have missed that part so will check it out again from start to finish this time!
Carolyn - Thank you for the Dichro Stringer info and I will do that tonight as well.
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2007-11-28, 4:25pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Måne
I pull goldstone stringer by attatching a chunk of goldstone (size of a large pea) to a punty, then thinly encase the chunk with clear. Then I heat the whole blob and pull. This makes a really sparkly stringer, but it can stand up to quite a lot of heat, because of the encasing. Goldstone that is not encased tends to go black.
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I did this but used several chunks at a time, covering them all with clear, and the goldstone in the stringers came out much thicker and really sparkles.
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2007-11-28, 4:52pm
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If you need another source for goldstone, I have bought it from Arrow Springs. I have tried the idea of using beads as the source of the goldstone, but it didn't work for me, I suspect it just wasn't the real thing. But the stuff from AS worked fine. Jeri
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2007-11-28, 5:03pm
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Hi-
I buy goldstone chunks from the following website:
http://www.greatrough.com
Called Red Aventurine; they also have blue and green. I bought a small slab, break it up into small chunks, heat them on a hot plate to keep them from thermal shocking, and thinly encase them in any clear. I get a FABULOUS sparkly stringer!!!! The goldstone frit you can get is usually not sparkly-it looks more muddy. It was reasonably priced, shipped quickly and the guy was very responsive when I had a question.
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Originally Posted by lynn's lampwork
I learned to pull stringer from Corina's stringer control DVD using the goldstone chunks on a punty like everyone has suggested. With the glob of gold at the end of the punty, I shape it into rod form with tweezers and then encase it with dark amethyst. This is the color that Corina suggested and my gold stone stringer turns out just perfect and pretty and very gold every time.
It's an excellent tutorial DVD if anyone needs stinger help (and to SEE someone do it!..not just photos).
Hope my little 2 cents helps!
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Opps, Michele...I'm so sorry. I don't think it was Corina's DVD it was the "Groundhog Beads" poster of her's that I have! On the back she gives a good description and photos on how to pull a thin goldstone stringer. But...on the DVD she does show you how to pull stringer from chunks and it's the same method. She does say, on this little poster-"Goldstone can be encased in any color; usually clear, but I use dark amethyst, which I think intensifies the sparkle of the goldstone." I agree with her on this! I really like how bright and really pretty gold my stringer comes out encased in the dark amethyst...
Sorry about the mix up!
~Lynn
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2007-11-28, 8:06pm
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any tips on how to pull a goldstone stringer from frit? i have a lot of size 1 frit and have no idea where to start?
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Delphi Glass also has some in stock, I just saw it last weekend!
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2007-11-28, 8:12pm
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any tips on how to pull a goldstone stringer from frit? i have a lot of size 1 frit and have no idea where to start?
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It's basically the same way as described above with the chunks - just keep picking them up, melt them in a bit, then pick up more until you get a blob, encase in clear and pull. Using a clear punty and making a maria is the only way to do it in this case.
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2007-11-28, 10:12pm
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I just got some of the Kugler goldstone from Hot Glass Color and love the sparkle in it. It's $6.00 for a very generous 2 oz "sample" which is enough for plenty of stringer. I got size 4 frit this time, next time I think I'll get size 5.
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LOL!!! So what did you make??
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