Can Someone Help Me with this Please!

Angie09 · #1 2014-08-28, 5:12pm

I was told by a person who works at a reputable glass shop that I could use #00 clear frit to "encase" a bead before adding surface decoration. Well, I did ... the photo is CIM Maraschino (which is really, really RED) and I dipped it in the frit a couple of time and then used DH to add some shine. What I got was a spotted coral-pink color and my red disappeared. Was this bad info? Is there some way to do this that would make it work? Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Kevan · #2 2014-08-28, 5:57pm

I wouldn't do it. You are creating little lines in between the red and the clear frit. Every single piece of frit will melt into your base color individually before they completely encase the glass. That's bound to have an affect on some colors and maybe not all colors. I don't think it's a good encasing technique.

I saw a video of a Japanese man encasing by making a paddle of clear at the end of the rod and then wrapping it around the bead, tucking the ends in towards the rod. I haven't tried it yet because I can't make any beads now, but I'm looking forward to it.

I think a lot of scum could develop. Sometimes with clear glass if you boil it too much it will get scummy. Lots of tiny, tiny bubbles form.

2xMI · #3 2014-08-28, 6:00pm

I can't tell for sure from the picture, but my guess is part of what you're seeing is micro bubbles/scum from the frit. I haven't worked with maraschino so don't know the color well or if it reacts with different glass. But I think part of the color "change" you're seeing is the micro bubbles clouding on the surface of the red. I would not recommend using frit for encasing. maybe try doing the same thing with another opaque color and see if something similar happens. My guess is, it will.

Mimi

2xMI · #4 2014-08-28, 6:01pm

Oops-- I was typing as you responded, Kevan.

ESC · #5 2014-08-30, 3:55pm

On the other hand, I love using clear frit over some colors to get a mineral or stone look to the bead. Just depends on what you're going for. And they're right, it's the micro bubbles caused by all those fracture surfaces that are causing your red to look pink.

KJohn · #6 2014-08-30, 5:58pm

Cool effect if you are trying for that.

Angie09 · #7 2014-08-30, 6:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESC

On the other hand, I love using clear frit over some colors to get a mineral or stone look to the bead. Just depends on what you're going for. And they're right, it's the micro bubbles caused by all those fracture surfaces that are causing your red to look pink.

Can you give me a couple of colors you're referring to that look good with the clear frit please.

ESC · #8 2014-09-02, 4:13pm

Try dark ivory with fine (sz1) intense black, then roll in fine clear. Makes a very nice granite.
Black rolled in white, intense black an then clear.
Red roof tile rolled in white, then clear.
These are all going to resemble granite or schist.
(Sorry, no pics.)

bearyboo · #9 2014-09-03, 10:51am

I quite like the effect you have got, but that's just me....

PaulaD · #10 2014-09-03, 12:29pm

You can try using clear stringers if you want a thin encasing.

Ravenesque · #11 2014-09-03, 11:29pm

I agree with Kevan. Also, this is a boro 'trick', they don't have as much problem with scumming as we do.