How do you make this ripple effect

[Jgiovacchini]

How can I make a ripple effect in my bead.

[Sue in Maine]

Jim Smircich explains how to make these on his site, I believe. (If it's not there, it's in one of his books... can't remember the title but I have it at home.)

Sue

[Jgiovacchini]

The only one that is similar on his site is http://www.smircich.com/html/combed___raised.html but its not really what I am looking for.

[Raven Wylder]

I believe that the artist of the beads teaches classes, maybe you can contact her and take one?

[beauxartz]

The book Sue is referring to is "The Classic Bead Shapes of Jim Smircich and His Amazing Control of Heat" by Jim Kerwin. It is published by GlassWear Studios (2001). Their e-mail is glasswearstudios@attbi.com and their phone number is 925-443-9139. The technique is called the Wavy Bead. It involves putting stripes on a base bead and then heating a portion of the bead and moving the glass. The book is well written and has a number of interesting techniques to try.

[beauxartz]

You may also want to try Sarah's "Think Pink" tutorial. Part of the tutorial is the Barbie Bling bead in which she demo's the heating and moving glass principal. This is an awesome tutorial and well worth the money spent. She covers alot of scientific facts about working with hot glass although you wouldn't recognize it as science because it is written in such an interesting manner.

[Lisi]

Could you be a little more descriptive?? Ripples can be done all sorts of ways and there are all sorts of ripples. If Smircich's isn't what you're looking for, then please give details. And NO don't post someone else's beads here! LOL!

[Jgiovacchini]

Im sorry I posted the pics I did not want to cause a an issue. I had seen other people post pics of how is this bead made so I didn't know not to I have since removed the picks and I will look into the Think pink tutorial if this technique is in there but I think it may be too advance for me as a newbie. I think that maybe I can take the principals of the wavy bead tutorial that was posted here a while ago and see if I can let gravity move a stack dot to get the effect.

The Classic Bead Shapes of Jim Smircich and His Amazing Control of Heat is available on amazon and I have some amazon bucks. Is this technique def in this book.

[BeadMaven]

Maybe this was what you were referring to?

http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=99725

[Sue in Maine]

Originally Posted by BeadMaven

Maybe this was what you were referring to?

http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=99725

Close but no cigar. She's after the wavy bead that Jim is so great at. She had posted a picture earlier but out of respect to the beadmaker, she removed it.

Sue

[Sylvie D.]

It might not be that easy to understand now what I’m going to say because the pictures have been removed. I don’t want to cause a heated discussion here, but let me just say this, and I hope it is not going to come out wrong, I don’t want to offend or hurt anyone, and I’m not pointing fingers at anyone either.I just want to get something out of chest: in another thread, people got upset because someone posted a picture without the OK of the artist… After reading it all, I can understand why. But what bother me even more, is people asking not to the artist who made the bead but on a forum… for other people to tear the bead apart trying to figure it out…. What bother me equally is people actually answering this kind of questions… I totally understand the desire for people to share and help other, but only to a certain extend... but it's hard to draw the right limit...

If someone doesn’t want spend too much time experimenting, there are tutorials, books and classes…
Of course, it’s a different story if it is a basic technique, but then a tut should exist already.

My 2 cents of advice : what don’t you try to pm or email the artist and ask her if this technique is in the tut that she has for sale… I’m sure she will tell you at least that, and if you buy the tut, she might be willing to give you some advice since you’re a newbie.

[BeadMaven]

Ah, thanks Sue.

[Hayley]

This may not exactly like the wavy beads you have in mind, but the concept is similar. . . gravity swirl.

Put stripes of glass from hole to hole on your base beads (perhaps start with four stripes, two of each color), heat a portion of it (e.g. right in the middle if you have a shorter bead) until the glass starts to move, keep your mandrel completely parallel to the table and continue to rotate the mandrel until you have the "wave" you desire!

In the case of my longer bead, I did that three times.

Hope this helps.

[parisgal]

Haley mostly took the words out of my mouth - I was just going to say try doing a search for "gravity bead".

[Hayley]

Originally Posted by Sylvie D.

What bother me equally is people actually answering this kind of questions…

Please do NOT tell me that you are now chastising me for posting picture of my own bead and sharing how I made it with a fellow lampworker!?!?!?!?!

ETA: I read Sylvie's post AFTER I have already shown my bead and share my techniques, not that it would have stopped me from doing so.

[DesertDreamer]

Good grief, are we going to start pissing and moaning over teaching common techniques??? It's not as if gravity swirls are something secret and propriety, for chrissakes. The freaking ROMANS were making them!!!!

[BeadMaven]

Thank you for saying what I had been thinking.

[Karen Hardy]

Originally Posted by DesertDreamer

Good grief, are we going to start pissing and moaning over teaching common techniques??? It's not as if gravity swirls are something secret and propriety, for chrissakes. The freaking ROMANS were making them!!!!

I agree. That's what this forum is for. If people feel offended and want
to hold back secrets on how THEY do it, then that's their business.
However that doesn't mean that the rest of us shut our brains down.

She's not asking for the whole bread and butter of this technique - just
the basic method used. Sort of like how to make a round bead. I wouldn't
hold back on telling someone how to do THAT either.
If it's something specific to someone's teaching methods then I usually will
not share the details - however gravity beads have been discussed to death
and it's not like giving away mom's secret recipe.

It's not like telling her how it's made will make her an expert anyway. She's
going to have to be able to understand the info and also practice it a lot.

...and yes - that's a gravity swirl bead. You can find other posts on how to
make them all over the web. It's all heat control and using a marver to move
the glass where you want it, then reshaping the bead.

Also, I would HIGHLY recommend Smartflix.com.
Right now they have a rental special on ALL of Jim's
DVDs http://smartflix.com/store/video/144...ch-Makes-Beads
I've rented many DVDs from them and ended up buying them because
I referred back to them so much.

[squid]

Originally Posted by Hayley

This may not exactly like the wavy beads you have in mind, but the concept is similar. . . gravity swirl.

Put stripes of glass from hole to hole on your base beads (perhaps start with four stripes, two of each color), heat a portion of it (e.g. right in the middle if you have a shorter bead) until the glass starts to move, keep your mandrel completely parallel to the table and continue to rotate the mandrel until you have the "wave" you desire!

In the case of my longer bead, I did that three times.

Hope this helps.

That is a beautiful bead, Hayley!

[squid]

Originally Posted by DesertDreamer

Good grief, are we going to start pissing and moaning over teaching common techniques??? It's not as if gravity swirls are something secret and propriety, for chrissakes. The freaking ROMANS were making them!!!!

Yeah - why do we even have a "Tips, Techniques and Questions" section if a common technique is top secret or, heaven forbid, in a tutorial?? This is getting freaking annoying.

[squid]

Originally Posted by Sylvie D.

It might not be that easy to understand now what I’m going to say because the pictures have been removed. I don’t want to cause a heated discussion here, but let me just say this, and I hope it is not going to come out wrong, I don’t want to offend or hurt anyone, and I’m not pointing fingers at anyone either.I just want to get something out of chest: in another thread, people got upset because someone posted a picture without the OK of the artist… After reading it all, I can understand why. But what bother me even more, is people asking not to the artist who made the bead but on a forum… for other people to tear the bead apart trying to figure it out…. What bother me equally is people actually answering this kind of questions… I totally understand the desire for people to share and help other, but only to a certain extend... but it's hard to draw the right limit...

If someone doesn’t want spend too much time experimenting, there are tutorials, books and classes…
Of course, it’s a different story if it is a basic technique, but then a tut should exist already.

My 2 cents of advice : what don’t you try to pm or email the artist and ask her if this technique is in the tut that she has for sale… I’m sure she will tell you at least that, and if you buy the tut, she might be willing to give you some advice since you’re a newbie.

I don't think anyone has the right to dictate to another person whether or not they share something they know. Just because you choose not to doesn't mean I can't. I see where you're coming from, but it's just not right to expect others to abide by your opinion on something - their opinion is apparently different.

[theglasszone]

Originally Posted by squid

I don't think anyone has the right to dictate to another person whether or not they share something they know. Just because you choose not to doesn't mean I can't. I see where you're coming from, but it's just not right to expect others to abide by your opinion on something - their opinion is apparently different.

Love you, Squidley!!!

De

[DesertDreamer]

Haley, wow, that bead is gorgeous!!!!! I can do single ripples, but multiples make me nuts.

[Raven Wylder]

Hayley, I think that's close but not quite the technique the OP had posted pics of. BTW, that is one gorgeous beady... is that new? I don't remember seeing that before.


Not to belabour, the issue but FWIW, the reason that I chose not to state how to make the bead, was because the orignal post had a pic of someone else's beads - the way I read the post was how do I make these beads? Maybe not what what the OP wrote but that's how I read it. [I could've easily skewed the message in my head, life's been kinda nuts lately, so if I'm mistaken, I apologize.] I didn't feel comfortable sharing the technique since I know that artist taught classes - totally forgot that they also had a tut for sale. And I figured the best way to handle this would be for the OP to contact the artist.

[AKDesigns]

So much for PM'ing the OP and asking her to remove the artist's pics before it got ugly.

[Hayley]

Thank you everyone for the kind words on my bead.

Sheryll - gravity swirl will always be gravity swirl . . . the basics are the same, the colors you use and how much you swirl determine the end result.

You saw that bead . . . Quince traded for it before you did at the Gathering!

Originally Posted by AKDesigns

So much for PM'ing the OP and asking her to remove the artist's pics before it got ugly.

The way this forum has been lately, it was going to get ugly the moment the question was asked . . . . . . the pics were removed quickly tho or it might have been worse!

[PixieFireBeads]

I simply cannot believe some of the complete unadulterated BS I read here. If you can't ask a simple question about lampworking why bother having a forum? Talk about attempted censorship...

Thanks to all of you who spoke up on this issue.

By the way, Hayley, thank you for sharing your beautiful bead (as always) AND METHOD with us.

[Hayley]

Originally Posted by squid

Yeah - why do we even have a "Tips, Techniques and Questions" section if a common technique is top secret or, heaven forbid, in a tutorial?? This is getting freaking annoying.

Perhaps they should get that section changed to "Tips, Techniques but NO Questions"

I think some people forget how it was like to be a newbie . . . I haven't forgotten since I have only been doing this for a little bit over two years and my memory is still good! lol!

For anyone new to lampworking, they have NO idea which techniques are "proprietary" and which ones are basics. They see something cool and want to know how it's done . . . like a kid in a toy store, wanting to play with everything. It's up to us more "seasoned" members to PRIVATELY let them know when something is a no no . . . such as posting pictures of someone else's beads. . .

As for asking questions, ASK away! Some of us still remember that this is a friendly place!

[lenora]

Originally Posted by AKDesigns

So much for PM'ing the OP and asking her to remove the artist's pics before it got ugly.

yep!

[Raven Wylder]

Originally Posted by Hayley

Sheryll - gravity swirl will always be gravity swirl . . . the basics are the same, the colors you use and how much you swirl determine the end result.

You saw that bead . . . Quince traded for it before you did at the Gathering!

That's why I don't remember it, Quincy snagged it before I could... lol!

I guess the difference was that I didn't think it was a gravity bead. I would made the bead(s) differently (not using the gravity swirl) so I thought it was a different technique. I would still say that the OP should've asked the artist first but I feel like I'm missing something with the whole censorship thing? I don't get it?