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Old 2009-07-15, 12:12pm
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I am thinking about purchasing a Jim Moore Bead Releaser. My question is, if a bead is really stuck on the mandrel, will it take the bead off? Here is the situation: I am using Super Blue bead release with pressed beads as well as spacers, etc. It is great stuff because it is not affected by our Midwest humidity as much. The downside is that I have arthritis in my hands and have a hard time taking the beads off of the mandrel when they are done. I have broken a lot of pretty beads because I am using pliers to get my beads off.
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What do you all think of the tool? I know from reading the threads that Jim has a very good reputation, and a lot of people have said that the Press is great, but I have not seen anything about the Bead Releaser.

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Old 2009-07-15, 12:15pm
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You can loosen a stuck bead with a Rivet Tool. See thread below:


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Old 2009-07-15, 12:17pm
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i dont know about the tool but i use a vice grip on the mandrel nice and tight, and then either a rubberized can opener thingy (the floppy grippy ones, i can't thing for the life of me what they would actually be called) or doubled over packing tape if it is really stuck on. sticky sides out, grips the bead and your fingers. i've cracked very few beads doing it this way. don't know if that might help. and of course it is a cheap alternative.
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Old 2009-07-15, 12:24pm
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A good thing to hold beads while getting them off a mandrel is a tourniquet. The rubber kind used in hospitals. It is a flexible soft rubber strip about 1"wide and 18" long. Grip the bead with it and it will give you more of a cushioned grip.

It also works great for stuck jar lids
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Old 2009-07-16, 4:23am
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I do the same as Jamie Lynne! Vice grips and then I use a piece of rubber excercise strap.
The vice grips work well with any size mandrel.

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Old 2009-07-16, 5:41am
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Hi Everyone,
I am thinking about purchasing a Jim Moore Bead Releaser. My question is, if a bead is really stuck on the mandrel, will it take the bead off? Here is the situation: I am using Super Blue bead release with pressed beads as well as spacers, etc. It is great stuff because it is not affected by our Midwest humidity as much. The downside is that I have arthritis in my hands and have a hard time taking the beads off of the mandrel when they are done. I have broken a lot of pretty beads because I am using pliers to get my beads off.
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What do you all think of the tool? I know from reading the threads that Jim has a very good reputation, and a lot of people have said that the Press is great, but I have not seen anything about the Bead Releaser.

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I have heard that the bead releaser is a good tool, but I've never used one. I do know that the rivet tool works very well and is easy on the hands, so you might want to try that route first. Worst case scenario, you're out $5 - $10.
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Old 2009-07-16, 8:22am
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Jim Moore's releaser should work fine. I have one and love it. It's easy on my hands, the rivit thing was still me using my hand power to get beads off and I want to avoid that.
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Old 2009-07-16, 9:09am
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I use the rivet tool as well. I believe it would work just as well as the bead releaser and for a lot less money. The only thing I would recommend you do with the bead rivet tool is make yourself a little leather round with a hole in just big enough for your mandrel to go through, and use it to cushion your bead while using the rivet tool. This will keep the metal from touching your bead and possibly cracking it. Other than that the Rivet tool works great.
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Old 2009-07-16, 10:24am
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I use the vice grips/pliers & the rubber thingy to get my beads off (& I usually remove them off dry mandrels...but I use fusion bead release--my beads come off pretty easy.
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Old 2009-07-16, 2:04pm
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I use a jar full of white vinegar to dissolve bead release. It is the cheapest option yet!
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Must try that ...
I have a rivet tool though.
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Old 2009-07-17, 9:38pm
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I used vice grips and pliers for 17 years....... and have had to have major hand surgery do to it.... sooooo I would recommend anything that you don't have to hold!

From holding onto the pliers for so many years it actually pushed my thumb away..... had to be pulled back in... doesn't that sound lovely! It was a very hard surgery to recover from.......

Also Jim's Bead Releaser won't bend the mandrels..... the rivet tool that I tried would bend the mandrels...... just my two cents ....

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Old 2009-07-18, 5:30am
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Just a brief note.... I am no expert on commercial "bead releasers" as I don't use them. BUT I DO use the Super Blue sludge. Nobody has touched on this contributing factor.

My recommendation to you is try making sure your release is maybe a tad thicker. I use it exclusiviely for my figurative work because the release is so darn tight- perfect for work that gets a lot of abuse. Unfortunately, it then has it's payback for releasing solid beads. Pretty much all my bead work is hollow, so my contact surfaces are at a minimum. That's my way of "cheating" at the releasing the bead issue
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If you are just doing spacers and things like that, go to a more easy beadrelease brand/type. Learn to switch beadrelease depending on the type of work you plan to do. They can compliment the style of bead you will be working on!

I know that Andrea swears by Jim Moore's tools, and though she could be slightly biased by her working relation to the tool maker, I know she is completely forthright in that this special tool has resolved her medical issues raised by the labor of releaseing beads from mandrels. I would trust her opionion 100%. It sounds like you have a serious enough medical issue that would warrent investing in the proper equipment. Still..... give the beadrelease pointers I offered as a combination solution.
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Old 2009-07-18, 7:28am
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If you soak your beads in white vinegar it will be much easier to get your beads off. You can get one of those plastic jar top openers and just twist the beads off with your entire hand instead of using just your fingers. I have arthritis in my hands too and I can do this.
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the rivet tool works really well I have one around here somewhere I was using.
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Old 2009-07-18, 8:02am
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Can I ask those of you who have the rivit tool, how it takes the stress off your hands? Don't you use your hands to close the tool? I have two fingers that dislocate easily and need something for my tiny mandrels that I don't use my hands at all on.
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Old 2009-07-18, 10:01am
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I'll put in a good word for the Jim Moore bead releaser, it works best for my symmetrical single beads on a mandrel.

Use of the whole arm (one can put body weight behind it) to loosen a bead really is noticeable and a very different motion from twisting or squeezing.
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Old 2009-07-21, 9:57am
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Just another note...If you don't use the proper sized rivet nut for the rivet tool, your mandrels will bend. I did have the smaller ones bend until I figured that out. I also find that when I rest one handle of the tool on my leg, and just gently push down with the other handle while the mandrel is vertical, I do not stress any part of my hands/wrists/forearms. Hope this makes sense, LOL.

I also thin my bead release quite a bit, until it's the consistency of cream, maybe a little thicker. I have no problem with cracking off, and I get the beads off very easily.

I like the vinegar idea though!
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