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Old 2006-08-18, 7:58pm
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How much oxygen does the Mirage require at the most? I thought that I read that one could run an oxycon on the Lynx center, and then run like tanked or liquid on the outer fire.

I was perusing oxygen concentrator systems, and I ran across this: http://www.ogsi.com/mid_size.php and also on the page somewhere there is a link to calculate your oxygen needs and match oxygen concentrator/generator system to your needs.

I still have liquid oxygen open as far as my oxy options.

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Old 2006-08-18, 9:49pm
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The centerfire (the Lynx) requires 14 cubic feet per hour oxygen (6.6 LPM) to run a top end flame (the kind that could make a 2" boro marble). This would be at about 12 psi, or thereabouts. I run a Phantom with the centerfire hooked up to an Integra10 (10 LPM at 9 psi), and it runs the centerfire at about 90% (it has more than enough flow, but falls just shy of the pressure needed for the very top end - but I'm very happy with the 90%).

With the centerfire and outerfire of the Mirage both running together, it takes 50 cubic feet per hour (23.59 LPM). A Mirage can run around 20-25 psi, but GTT recommends 30-40 psi (to compensate for long lines, etc.). There are generators out there that will run it. The Onsite Pro8 is one that comes to mind. They have a Pro4, but I don't know how it would do with a Mirage.

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Old 2006-08-18, 9:55pm
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The centerfire (the Lynx) requires 14 cubic feet per hour oxygen (6.6 LPM) to run a top end flame (the kind that could make a 2" boro marble). This would be at about 12 psi, or thereabouts. I run a Phantom with the centerfire hooked up to an Integra10 (10 LPM at 9 psi), and it runs the centerfire at about 90% (it has more than enough flow, but falls just shy of the pressure needed for the very top end - but I'm very happy with the 90%).

With the centerfire and outerfire both running together, it takes 50 cubic feet per hour (23.59 LPM). A Mirage can run around 20-25 psi, but GTT recommends 30-40 psi (to compensate for long lines, etc.). There are generators out there that will run it. The Onsite Pro8 is one that comes to mind. They have a Pro4, but I don't know how it would do with a Mirage.

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Kim is 23.59 LPM for the Phantom inner and outter fire running or the Mirage?
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Old 2006-08-18, 10:01pm
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Kim is 23.59 LPM for the Phantom inner and outter fire running or the Mirage?
Oops! That would be for the Mirage. I went back and fixed it. Thanks, Robert. The Phantom runs between 35 and 40 cubic feet per hour (16.5 to 18.87 LPM).
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Old 2006-08-18, 10:13pm
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Thanks Kim good to know.

PondRacer,

If I remmember correct. The PRO4 outputs around 20 LPM of oxygen and I think around 45 PSI.

So this oxygen system would power a GTT Phantom 100% and a GTT Mirage at about 90%.
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Old 2006-08-19, 12:15am
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If you add a storage tank, it may perform better than that.

BTW, that Delta Mag (90 jets) only takes 90 cubic feet per hour oxygen at top end.
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And the Pro 4 sets one back how much?

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hmm, it's about $4,000 for the PRO4 and another $1,000 for the compressor?
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Old 2006-08-27, 11:17am
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hmm, it's about $4,000 for the PRO4 and another $1,000 for the compressor?
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Old 2006-08-27, 7:34pm
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Hahaha, yeah, it's in my dreams too. Lynx is the first step I plan on going right now. Just wanted to learn on the Lynx before I get more complicated.

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