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2011-01-19, 7:15am
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Living out Loud
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Zimmerman Lilac Rose vs Purple Rose
Can anyone show me or tell me the difference between these two colors?
I hear and see all the wonderful buzz about Purple Rose but not Lilac Rose do the behave similarly?
Thanks
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2011-01-19, 11:43am
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I think they are the same but I've been wrong before - haha
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2011-01-19, 1:46pm
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Lampworkaholic!
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One is bluer (lilac) and one is pinker (rose). Both are beautiful and reactive.
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2011-01-19, 8:12pm
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Living out Loud
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Thanks so much to both of you!!
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2011-01-20, 12:14am
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To me the lilac looks pinker & the rose looks more purple. The regular lilac is nice also & there's still some available at Olympic Color.
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2011-01-20, 1:26am
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Z99 and Z851 are similar
Z850 i slighter and has a more bluish color.
I have 2 beads made the same day, the same way of both Z99 and Z851
I will grab some pics today or tomorrow as i am teaching class today
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2011-01-20, 10:12am
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I would love to see your beads Christina - I have Z850, Z851 and Z99 that I have had for a couple of years and not used any since I was "saving" it......saving for what I don't know but I guess I will some day.
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2011-01-20, 10:16am
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Originally Posted by C-Ann
I would love to see your beads Christina - I have Z850, Z851 and Z99 that I have had for a couple of years and not used any since I was "saving" it......saving for what I don't know but I guess I will some day.
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Don't save it all! A little goes a long way, so you can play with just a bit of it without fear that it will all be gone forever.
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Let me give you some of my advice. After all, I'm not using any of it.
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2011-01-20, 8:45pm
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Living out Loud
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I would love to see beads made with these colors!
Thanks so much everyone!
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2011-01-21, 8:33am
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This is Purple Rose on Opal Yellow.
 
Jack
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2011-01-21, 6:42pm
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Let me get busy. Thanks for the visual.
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2011-01-22, 2:30pm
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Stunning beads Kimberly and Jack!
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-One of a kind boro frit blends!
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2011-01-22, 9:55pm
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Thanks Angela.
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2011-01-23, 3:07pm
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goody! i just scooped up the last of Z851 size 0 frit from eplanet 
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2011-01-28, 9:04pm
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I'm a lilac!
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I never got any Z851.  I do have a good stash of Z850... anyone want to trade a bit of 851 for 850?
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2011-01-29, 1:19am
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2011-01-29, 1:36am
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I'm a lilac!
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That pink opal looks really pretty... I don't think I've tried that.
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2011-01-29, 8:06am
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They are both lovely and somewhat reactive but different from the Zimmerman purples, more muted and homogeneous.
R-88 Opal Violet is closer.
K-97 Lilac Red also is closer.
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2011-01-29, 3:58pm
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I'm a lilac!
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I love the R-88! It doesn't do quite the same reactive stuff and isn't as dense/intense, but it's lovely.
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2011-01-29, 4:36pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by erose
They are both lovely and somewhat reactive but different from the Zimmerman purples, more muted and homogeneous.
R-88 Opal Violet is closer.
K-97 Lilac Red also is closer.
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Thanks. I was looking at all of those. One could always
mix some powder and brew up a combo batch I guess
I bet if we all play with these on some reactive bases
we'll find some interesting result.
The Lilac Red name seems like a close name to Purple Rose for a reason
y' know?
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2011-01-29, 4:38pm
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Lampworkaholic!
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It's a very saturated transparent. It will look black unless you use it as a thin layer over clear or white. It is beautiful that way.
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2011-01-29, 9:41pm
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I'm a lilac!
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I made some beads with Hyacinth violet recently, and I'm trying to remember which ones they are so I can post them here... it is a lovely color, but very dark. There is also a light hyacinth. My favorite transparent purple is Reddish Amethyst, though.
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2011-01-29, 9:46pm
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I'm a lilac!
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Here's the Z850 on Opal Yellow:
and on System 96 Cloud Gray (pardon the beyootyful fingerprint):
I love how different the color comes out on different base colors. Anyone want to trade me some for Z-851? I want to compare them. It looks way lighter than Z-99 in frit form, but after its melted it's similar, like a creamier variation.
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2011-01-30, 12:22am
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I'm a lilac!
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Yeah, it's different from the Z99... similar hues but with a creamier tone. I still have a fair bit of Z-99 which I'm really careful with because it's a crucial component of one of my best-selling bead styles. I was pleased to finally experiment with my stash of this color, though, because I think it will work out as a replacement for me when the dreaded time comes. Plus, I like the way it turns blue and green in combination with R108. I am sad that Olympic is out of #1 size frit in this color. I would have gotten more if I could.
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