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View Poll Results: What type of a studio set up do you have?
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In Home/not insured
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28.44% |
In Home/insured
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22.22% |
Metal shed bldg./insured
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5 |
2.22% |
Metal shed bldg./not insured
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1.33% |
Wood shed bldg./insured
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10 |
4.44% |
Wood shed bldg./not insured
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11 |
4.89% |
Garage set up/insured
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17 |
7.56% |
Garage set up/not insured
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16.89% |
Barn or other out bldg./insured
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9 |
4.00% |
Barn or other out bldg./not insured
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10 |
4.44% |
Other set up on your property?
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6.22% |
2011-04-14, 9:15am
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Originally Posted by truegem
If you are selling on Etsy, is that considered selling from the home?
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I think selling out of your home means people physically coming to your home to purchase. You have an online business which is home based. You have all of the business paperwork with your home address on it.
Someone correct me here if I am wrong or expound...thanks
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Originally Posted by junko
A couple of years ago I got business insurance for my pottery business. We went to an independent agent to totally redo all of our insurance because I was afraid we would get dropped from our current insurance if they knew I had kilns in the house.
Had to have an insurance inspector come and look at the kilns, equipment, etc.
I ended up with the Hartford for my business insurance. Eek! Guess I'll need to do some more research now!
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I have the Hartford for our autos. I got it through AARP years ago and still have. They have been okay. Nowadays if anything is working for you....just go with it. But if I WAS LOOKING for new insurance I would go with one of the top rated companies.
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2011-05-13, 7:59am
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Join Date: Feb 12, 2011
Location: Western NY
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insurance for garage with natural gas
Thank you Lorraine, this thread has been incredibly helpful!
does anyone know if it is easier to get insurance coverage if you have natural gas as opposed to propane? i am outside Buffalo, NY
Joan
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2011-05-13, 12:10pm
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I'm meeeeelting
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Join Date: May 27, 2007
Location: Seattle, WA
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My insurance agent told me I needed a business policy, so that's what I have. I have a separate studio in my yard. If I wasn't selling at all, I could add it to my homeowner's insurance, if I recall correctly.
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2011-05-13, 2:35pm
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Thanks, Felicia!
Setting up a studio is harder than I thought ...We will see how it goes....
Joan
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2011-05-13, 6:41pm
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I'm meeeeelting
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It is hard. I got very bogged down in different details and decisions while doing mine. I'm happier with some of my decisions than others.
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2011-05-14, 5:13am
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I am guessing a lot of folks do a separate shed or barn because insurance won't cover a garage?? I live in a suburban town on a little lot with neighbors real close by. The garage is detached from the house , but is still used to store our cars. I was thinking I would just back the cars out and fire up my torch, hah! Not sooo easy.
I am trying to see what other people in WNY have come up with..unfortunately i have got to have insurance. When I lived in NH and was doing this, I don't think we were insured......Different place and different times
Joan
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2011-05-14, 11:33am
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Yikes--now I don't even want to torch today until I check my policy!!
THANKS truly for all the great info though--appreciate all your hard work and harder questions. I will have a great list to ask from because of your efforts!
Smiles, Sheri
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2011-05-15, 3:20am
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In my experience it is cheaper getting quotes online. Some of the top insurance companies offer discounts when ordering online, because it is less work for them. But to be safe you could compare rates online, pick the best offer and try a local agency to see if they can match it or do better: www.quotes-center.com
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2011-09-08, 10:10pm
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I was more concerned with liability for shows and for products so I went with this: http://www.actinspro.com/ Plus we have property insurance through another company that I called and told what I was doing. They suggested I get product liability too, which they did not offer, because people are lawsuit happy these days, which is why my hair dryer says not to use it in the shower.
If you get the annual plan, it covers product liability. My stuff in in a shed, I checked metal outbuilding but mine is part glass, and wood with a double work bench fully encased in metal (huge fume cabinet). Propane is outside, like it should be too. I will not torch in my house because I don't want little glass bits getting dragged around by my pets and scratching up my floor or cutting feet.
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2011-10-10, 8:01pm
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I don't think my answer would be of much help to anybody else because my situation is a bit unique. Our building is on Main St and was at one time a restaurant in one part of it. Getting insurance was easy for the first floor because A. natural gas versus tanked propane, B. a fire suppression system left from the restaurant (my torch area is in the area that was the kitchen) and C. the fire marshal approved the rewiring and updated safety work my DH did. The PITA part was getting home coverage for the apartment we turned the second floor into for living quarters. Go figure...Even though we are the only occupants in any part of the entire 8,000 square feet of space we easily got coverage as soon as we had the building permitted as condo.
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2011-10-10, 10:14pm
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Sounds like a terrific setup!
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2011-10-11, 4:47am
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We're still working on the apartment upstairs. It was a hotel on that side of the building and we still have to work on that side. The building was built in 1883 so you can imagine some of the updating that has to be done. Know anybody who'd like a couple of claw foot tubs for free? We're trying to use as much of original materials as we can, but two tubs are plenty, LOL It's really two buildings that share a roof. My studio is on one side downstairs and we use the other side as gallery space for artists to share and hopefully we can get some classes going. The dream is to get a glass blowing area set up in another building, if we can ever find anyone in the area who'd like to teach in exchange for free use of the facilities.
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2011-11-10, 8:07pm
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If you weren't in Missouri I would be all over the claw foot tubs..LOL Good Luck and post pics when you can?
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2011-11-13, 6:02pm
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Uh-oh means it's too late
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Hi there I am in South Florida and they told me that since I was using equipment that was approved to be in the space I am in (on my back porch) that I was covered under my normal HW policy. If I upgraded to a tanked oxy or a larger "not for home use" oxycon or to a HUGE bulk propane then I would need to pursue a separate policy for "business" related issues- HOWEVER if I move these things indoors or the garage I HAVE to have a policy since those areas are considered high risk. Basically until I move or make more than I am making dollar wise (I do not teach) I do not need an additional policy- My DH is considering having a rider just in case but as it stands now I do not need one- I know that our laws in FL are very different though. In VA where I am from I would have had to have an additonal policy my sister checked for me.
Hope this helps
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2012-11-02, 8:21pm
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Do keep in mind that insurance laws vary from state to state. And honestly, if you agent told you that it was covered, your insurance company would have to honor the claim, it would simply go onto the agents errors and omissions policy. They won't cover you a second time but if the agent makes a mistake, you are covered. At least in Ohio.
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2012-11-03, 1:29pm
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WOW ! I am one of the ones whose agent said "you are fine and covered".....now I am really wondering if I should dig deeper. My studio is in my finished basement, with ventilation, propane outside, oxycon and kiln inside....I am very careful....but I would hate to have a catastrophe and find out later that there was ZERO COVERAGE ! I sure hope you are right, Sonja !
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2012-11-03, 3:33pm
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There have actually been quite a few threads of poor lampworking peeps getting immediately cancelled when a torch was mentioned. It is the underwriters that have to give you approval NOT the agents. ASK them to call the underwriters but be prepared that you may be cancelled on the spot.
The underwriters go by set standards and anything labeled open flame such as a torch is a huge red flag to them and usually causes cancellation.
It would be better to be safe than sorry and find out for sure.
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2013-05-29, 12:28pm
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Bumping this thread
We have lots of newbies so I am bumping this thread.
There is some very good info here if you plan on torching in your home.
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2013-05-29, 2:02pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorraine Chandler
We have lots of newbies so I am bumping this thread.
There is some very good info here if you plan on torching in your home.
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Hi Lorraine, great thread. I tried the link to your blog and it does not work. I'll type it in myself but I thought you would want to know.
Bob
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2013-08-24, 9:00am
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Thanks Bob, I rarely get back to these old threads but I did add a clickable banner for my website below which has a link on the home page to my blog and then from my blog you can go to my handmadeartists boutique.
As you can see I am just dabbling around on the internet. I really prefer show with real people I can talk to you. It is much more fun for me.
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