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2013-03-31, 3:27pm
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CIM Mojito
I used CIM Mojito in a bead, the core was about two wraps of the Mojito and then it was deeply encased with Uroboros 104 clear. The bead was about 80% clear. The next day all three beads I made this way were full of cracks that look like incompatibility to me. I know I can encase Mojito, I have done it with Effetre clear. But I didn't expect this issue. Has anyone else encountered this? Jeri
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2013-03-31, 6:37pm
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I would doubt it's the mojito, I'm addicted to that glass. I've heard of the Uroboros cracking on fb a lot, seems people here like it ?
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2013-03-31, 8:13pm
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I've had epic compatibility cracks with the most recent batch of Uroboros 104. Bummer because I loved the first batch so much.
The only way I trust encasing with it now is when I use it as both the base and as the encasement layers.
Liz
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2013-03-31, 9:25pm
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I cracked some with a lauscha lt. teal transparent over urobos 104 core last night as well. only thing in the batch that did so I'm certain it was a compatibility issue. its done a great job in other cases so guess certain combos are just bad news. Double helix had a very nice paper showing the broad range of glass relative to effetre . My guess is that the urobos is at one end of the spectrum rather than the middle and doesn't play well with things on the other side.
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2013-04-01, 5:52am
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This is my first issue with uroboros so I assumed it was the mojito. I guess that sounds like a rush to judgment now! I guess I should go with effetre on this bead. Jeri
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2013-04-01, 9:57am
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I've also had cracking issues with Uroboros encasing.
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2013-04-02, 5:44am
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I had fire lotus crack with uroborus 104, the strange thing was they looked fine fresh out of the kiln and a few hours later I noticed cracks! Three out of 4 beads cracked.
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2013-04-02, 6:43am
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It's sad. Uroboros put a year at least into quality control and the first batch was awesome. Something went awry with the second run. And now I don't trust the glass and doubt I will buy it again.
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2013-04-02, 10:23am
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Me neither, Elizabeth.
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2013-04-02, 10:49am
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Here are the latest casualties -- before I gave up on using it any other way than as both base and encasement with only a thin layer of anything else in between.
Both of these had Messy Tuxedo as a base.
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2013-04-06, 6:41am
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I've had cracking issues with with the Uroboros 104 clear too...definitely compatibility issues. I don't use it anymore.
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2013-04-06, 11:34am
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That's a shame, I had Uroboros on my list to try.
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2013-04-06, 6:27pm
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I have only had issues when I encase the CIM monitor. I like it enough to continue to use it cautiously, jeri
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2013-04-06, 9:28pm
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Uboros
Hi Jeri,
I was very excited about the Uborous 104 announcement after taking your class at the Gathering, and ordered 3 pounds. The beads that I learned to grind in your class are heavily encased. I had been making successful beads with Super Clear but when I started to use U104' they all cracked. I too found that the only way to use this glass with heavy encasing was to create the core with U104, do my detailes and then finish with the U104. I absolutely love this glass for its ease of melting and encasing, but always wonder if I am going to be bitterly disappointed in the days after removing from the kiln.
Maybe they will revise the formula and let all of us know?
 Made a bead today to flat lap tomorrow. It is so fun to see what I can discover coming from my design.
Desta
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2013-04-07, 12:02am
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Desta, I would love to see what you are working on! I hate this issue with clears, I have been spoiled by too many uneventful years courtesy of Moretti. Did you have cracking with all colors or only some? Jeri
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2013-04-07, 2:29pm
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