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Old 2013-10-25, 5:26pm
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Default webbing intense black?

I am having trouble getting my intense black to web.

Are there colors besides ivory that cause nice webbing of IB?

Also, I know it should be really thin to help with the webbing are there other tips that will help?

I hope I don't have a bad batch of IB.

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Old 2013-10-25, 5:27pm
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Heat it really hot & you'll be able to watch it start webbing.
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Old 2013-10-25, 5:42pm
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We also have had troubles with this. AND we just bought a new batch of IB, so thinking something has changed. The few rods we have of the old stuff does web - it usually takes quite a bit of time - for us about 4 minutes using minor or mega minor torch.

We buy the IB as stringer width, and then pull it even thinner when we want to get the webbing.
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Old 2013-10-25, 5:55pm
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I use a hair-thin stringer, literally. Heat the tip of a rod a little, attach a punty, and pull immediately.

It's usually a two-stage webbing process for me. Melt it in, let the bead cool back down to a point that it's not sagging at all, then reheat in the hottest part of the flame to pretty hot. I use a mega minor. Works for me.

My intense black's about two years old, but...if it's not what you're doing already, it's worth a try.
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Old 2013-10-25, 9:32pm
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I bought some CIM Hades stringer from Frantz and found out that it webs on white, haven't tried it on ivory yet. I think of it as a cheap(er) alternative to intense black. Actually, I have limited experience with IB.
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Old 2013-10-25, 10:16pm
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I just cook the snot out of it over ivory or turquoise, and yeah a little is all you need, hair fine stringer
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Old 2013-10-26, 6:15am
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Years ago I bought intense black stringers, only to find out much later that they were regular black. It was too late for me to contact the seller, but you might contact the company you bought them from if you just got them. The way I found out was that it didn't web at all.
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Old 2013-10-26, 12:07pm
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Thanks for the help everyone
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Old 2013-10-26, 7:04pm
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Darlene, funny that you should mention this! I just used up all of my older IB and now that I am using my new batch I can't get webs. Seriously messed with my mind until I saw your post. Perhaps the formula has changed?

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Old 2013-10-26, 10:58pm
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Have you tried Moretti anice white?

That always works for me.
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Old 2013-10-26, 11:01pm
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I bought some CIM Hades stringer from Frantz and found out that it webs on white, haven't tried it on ivory yet. I think of it as a cheap(er) alternative to intense black. Actually, I have limited experience with IB.
I've had success with CIM Hades webbing on Light Ivory, haven't tried in on dark ivory yet, though...
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Old 2013-10-26, 11:57pm
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^ it works on dark, I use Hades now for webbing instead of IB
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Old 2013-10-27, 7:18am
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I second that you have to se hairfine stringers and what Melissa said: heat seriously, let cool, then heat again.

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Old 2013-10-27, 7:37am
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It also webs on light pink, and I'm sure some other opaques too, but haven't tried them all to know which ones.
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Old 2013-10-27, 4:15pm
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^ it works on dark, I use Hades now for webbing instead of IB
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Old 2013-10-29, 10:56am
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Thought I would show an example of the webbing desired.

Made this bead in August with the last of old purchase of intense black, and tried to make a companion with IB from a new purchase. It was IMPOSSIBLE to get the new to web. Have had no success at all since then.

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I used to use it on ivory, turquoise, and coral, and it webs really well on those colors and other opaques (from my past experience). I wonder if their bins got mislabeled somehow and you didn't get true IB?

Have you guys contacted the place(s) you purchased it from?
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Good point. If you pull a thin stringer or mash it really thin, does it look black or purple?
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Good point. If you pull a thin stringer or mash it really thin, does it look black or purple?
This. If it's clear purple, it's not intense black.
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Old 2013-10-30, 2:52pm
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Yes, as someone mentioned (I think), some got regular black and not IB before. So it happens.

As far as Hades, here are some examples http://creationismessy.com/color.aspx?id=17
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Old 2013-11-01, 1:26pm
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Definitely intense black, as it is very black when thin, and works wonderfully for crisp black lines. Just no longer webs, if that is what you want.
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ah shame, then the formula must be messed up then? That's the whole fun of it! Well to me anyways.
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I got the ultra webbing from GUNMETAL (CiM).. but as everybody said, it has to be from a hairthin stringer and quite overcooked...
left: on medium grey, middle: on white, right on a mixed base.
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Old 2013-11-09, 12:16pm
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Wow! I love those! Absolutely stunning.
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Old 2013-11-13, 3:50pm
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I think it really helps to let the glass move around also. Good heat control practice and you get cool webbing.
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I have been using gunmetal myself for awhile now. It is really fun to super heat it and watch the webbing.
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Oh Hades is the KING of webbing! It's not quite the same as IB and sometimes Hades can overwhelm your entire bead. Crazy glass, it is!
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