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Old 2009-12-02, 3:13pm
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Any one tried it? I ordered a crapload and really like it. Works great for beads. It's not the end all white but damn good just the same. Smooth, vibrant and no bubbles. Just thought i'd spread the word.
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Old 2009-12-02, 6:41pm
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called ust adam. says one month out; priced to black. who else has some at black prices?
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Old 2009-12-02, 8:38pm
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Is it better than the borosticks white?
That's what I've been using lately.
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Old 2009-12-02, 8:52pm
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who makes it.it looks nice!
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Old 2009-12-02, 8:56pm
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Old 2009-12-02, 9:09pm
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Does that mean its porcelain?
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called ust adam. says one month out; priced to black. who else has some at black prices?
What's the black price? I have 20 lbs and 88 more on the way i'm sure i could part with a few lbs.

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nope just a white, looks kinda like porcelain though.

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You know all i am gonna say is it depends on what your doing. I don't know if there is a right answer. I like borostix white for things, i like all the other whites for other things. This white seems to fit quite a few applications that i've had issues with using other whites.
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Paul picked some up, and TAG will be re-selling it (as White Tiger) for $25/lb as long as this shipment lasts.... I am trying to get the newsletter out by the end of this week. But the shop boys are l-o-v-i-n-g it.
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Hey Jenny have you guys tested the coe? If you have what are the results? I'm not at all worried just curious. The glass seems to work fine for me even bench cooling line tube made outta it.
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Hey Chris! I checked with Paul, and he says so far, the COE looks to be "in the zone." We have had no problems at all in the few days we've had it. The shop guys say it has passed all the tests they have put it through so far, with flying colors -- so to speak. Graininess in the rods appears to smooth right out. And no visible lines from coil-potting:



Paul did note that he can't be absolutely certain these are the same glass, he hasn't seen yours up close, but it likely is. He calls it pretty sweet, notes that it doesn't boil, and says it's very smooth, is buttery and dense, is VERY white. He's pleased - he did work with them on this formula. Of course, Paul almost ALWAYS thinks something can be improved, tho!
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What's the black price? I have 20 lbs and 88 more on the way i'm sure i could part with a few lbs.
I have purchased black for as little as $3.80/pound and as much as $8/pound.

PM me if you have some to sell. I'm in no rush; it's a lifelong profession.
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Old 2009-12-07, 7:00pm
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Best.....white.....ever!!!!
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Old 2009-12-08, 3:19am
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Okay so where do we find this elusive white?? I saw that TAG has the white tiger for $25 per pound and that's not a bad price but definitely not the same price as black.
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I did some handmixing tests with opaque colors including orange,and yellow crayon, here is a pic of what i came up with.
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Old 2009-12-08, 6:11pm
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oooooh very creamy and tropical looking.
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So who is selling this ? I cant seem to find it.

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I really like it ~ creamy smooth, no bubbles. I do find it a bit stiffer and more opaque than the other whites.
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I really like it ~ creamy smooth, no bubbles. I do find it a bit stiffer and more opaque than the other whites.
I agree with Leslie, smooth to appy and stayes opaque and doesn't boil for me.
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I got some from TAG. Wow is all I can say. I was really cooking it and it did not boil. First white I did not boil some how without encasing the rod.

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Don't encase it too deep, our blowers are finding it works best without encasing.. The most beautiful white lilly yesterday it was encased in clear and the clear cracked after the fact..
Just thought I'd pass that along as it works great without encasing...
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I encased it with NS Pom and both beads cracked. One was flattened so that could be my fault. Not sure about the bicone that cracked though. Bummer, I really like it.

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Kait made a marble with it and used Elvis Red and it was fine they were swirls together, and she made one with melted in green dots and neither one of them cracked..
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FWIW our encased tests here have not cracked. We are also selling the White Tiger in a FRIT. yes FRIT. Fine, medium, coarse and chunky. $5/ 2oz. jar.
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y so expensive? it's on $15 a lb...........
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I encased it with NS Pom and both beads cracked. One was flattened so that could be my fault. Not sure about the bicone that cracked though. Bummer, I really like it.

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I am thinking this was my fault. I was working these beads for awhile. I will be trying the encasing again.
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y so expensive? it's on $15 a lb...........
It's looking like "supply and demand" has moved the scale up or so it would seem. Not saying anything bad, just saying, it was very cheap just a few months ago. Now if you look it's going up like gas. I've heard just as many bad's as the good's .... the same person that speaks good about it today will tell you different once they crack a piece they have a couple hours in. I'm still trying to support our USA Manufactures but something tells me, within a year, we'll have an entire new market to be picking from. Sad really, but I guess price is price and during these hard times what can be expected.
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fwiw trev's has it for $15 and it's the same stuff tag is selling...... smack it with a hammer a few times and voila.... frit....... Chris, can you post a better pic of the Bub in your second pic.......that piece is sweet and perfectly shows what can be done with this white......
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