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Old 2014-12-03, 9:28am
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Default Keeping palladium leaf silver?

I need to keep palladium leaf silver as a surface application on a black bead. Problem is, they keep turning lovely colors in the kiln. Nice effect, but not what I need.

Encasing would alter the look of the bead, so would rather not. I've made sure my flame is oxygen heavy and the palladium is still silver going into the kiln. The beads are 1" - 1 1/4" hollows. I've tried working very cool once the leaf goes on, but it takes a bit of heat to melt the palladium into the surface. Would activated charcoal in the kiln help?

I've polished a finished bead on the buffing wheel to remove the top layer of palladium, the pinks are gone, but the palladium looks more nickel than silver. Not the effect I want.

Anyone have a technique that will retain a shiny silver look?
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Old 2014-12-03, 10:40am
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I have no help, but would love to see a photo with the lovely colors.
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Oh, again no real knowledge, but if you're trying for silver, would silver not work?
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Old 2014-12-03, 11:14am
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I was under the impression silver would fume blue on black, perhaps not?
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The silver will stay silver, and the black will stay black, so long as you don't reduce it... I think. Pretty sure that should work.
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Old 2014-12-03, 11:35am
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Cool, because that would be a lot cheaper than palladium! Guess I've always blasted the snot out of it to make blue beads.
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Old 2014-12-04, 5:31pm
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Kathy, try silver foil instead of leaf to keep it silver on black. It would take more heat to melt the foil and fume the glass. And you really can't melt paladium to the glass anyway. It isn't chemically bonded to the surface like silver is, just sits on the surface. I've never tried to keep paladium silver, as I enjoy all the lovely pinks, purples and blues you can get from 'blasting' it.
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Old 2014-12-07, 9:48pm
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The silver foil worked like a charm. Thanks!
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