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Old 2015-07-24, 8:23pm
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Hi =) I was wondering if anyone tried making frit with broken glass bottles? Can I use the frit with 104? Has anyone tried? Thank you in advance =)
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Old 2015-07-24, 8:33pm
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You could try doing a stringer test for compatibility -- Arrow Springs has instructions. I doubt that bottle glass is compatible, though, and the COEs can vary wildly. But try it with some test beads and see what happens!

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Old 2015-07-25, 1:21am
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I tried it, and did not have great luck when used on a larger scale, mixed with other glasses. What did work awesome, was smashing a bottle of a color I liked, and making a bunch of spacers, and one larger focal bead, to make a necklace and earring set! You can add wire and crystals like other glass, just not any other glass. I made an anniversary set for my new sister in law out of their champagne bottle, and my other sister in law got a blue set from the bud lite platinum bottles! They were beautiful in their simplicity, mixed with other beads, and I see them wear them a lot.

I found that even bottles from the same six pack often didn't mix, so try to use one bottle at a time. I keep shards separate in a glass mayo jar collection. I found that cutting the bottles into rings, then snapping the rings in half gave me even, almost rod like pieces to work, but be careful, they are sharp!!

Oh, and lastly, champagne bottles are double layered glass, so be extra careful when heating in the flame, or the layers pop apart, bu the glass is wonderfully color saturated!
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Old 2015-07-25, 3:21am
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Aye, Bottle glass doesn't have to have consistency from one batch to the next because they are only supposed to melt once. Best to use them as stand alone things. I think you will find it stiffer than soft glass and probably stiffer than most 90 and 96 coe.
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Old 2015-07-25, 8:58am
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I have a bunch of bottles for you. When using them for frit, remember the 5% rule!
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Old 2015-07-25, 11:01am
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5% rule....Haha. Pearls of wisdom.
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Old 2015-07-26, 7:54am
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I was told, back in my fusing days, that bottle glass is somewhere around 80COE. Maybe. You might have some luck with float glass colorants or frit, or using plain float strips together with your bottle frit, BUT I haven't tried it and have no idea if it would work. Kinda doubt it. Float is 83COE*. Close but not a match, and, I'm guessing, no lead or other chemicals that make the furnace frit we use a bit stretchy and (sometimes) forgiving with beads.

Also, there are batch numbers on the bottoms of bottles, say a six pack of beer. I've checked and sometimes there is only one match, sometimes none. I got lucky one time with a case of beer and got 4 matches. I fused them together and they were fine. I tried different batch numbers fused together and they were NOT fine. lol That told me there is a significant difference in batches with bottle glass.

*new, manufactured and tested. All bets would be off with older window glass.
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For all the time and trouble, it's worth it to just buy rods

I broke up and pulled rods from a wine bottle once; I think they're still sitting on my shelf.
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Old 2015-07-26, 8:08pm
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thanks everyone! =) I might give it a try! =) thank you .... I know buying rods would def be less time consuming... but I am wondering if I can recycle the bottles into beads =)
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Maybe use the bottle glass as a base bead and add 5% other coe frit on the surface.
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Karen,

Chris and I make beads frequently from recycled bottles. Only a bit of surface decoration though!!!
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Old 2015-07-27, 10:22am
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i make lots of beads from bottles and only decorate with stringer from the same bottle. Looks cool, and the recycle/upcycle aspect is always popular at my craft shows.
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http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/sh...light=Recycled
http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=99330 (Post 24 is how I do it)

Love working with recycled glass. There is a thread in the gallery also.
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Old 2015-07-28, 8:14am
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Bottle glass is great for monochrome, textural, and sculptural work. I make horse beads and hollows.
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I've done it multiple times and have quite a few wine bottles of various nice colors laying in my studio.

Use a single bottle and decorate with furnace glass frit (96) the same as you would 104, you can also decorate with any of the metal leafs, foils, or wire, mica, pixie dust, etc. Be creative. Oh and you should also be able to use dichro extract if you have any.

Enjoy being surprised by really neat color reactions. (let me see if I can find a pix as an example).
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so cool!!! Now I am excited to try! =) woohoo!! so thankful for LE! =)
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