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2011-03-03, 6:41am
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Tools for left handed lamp workers needed!!
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I am a newbie regarding lampwork. I've already set um my workbench except of the ventilation.
Now I have a question. I'm left handed. I found that most of the tools are only available for right handers. Especially those brass shapers. Does anybody now a company that makes tools for lefties like me? I'm from Europe. Over here there is no company at all taking care about left handers To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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2011-03-03, 8:01am
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I'm left handed as well but to me lampworking tools are not like scissors (well, except the scissors To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. ) and are interchangeable. I keep presses on the left side of my bench and just turn them whichever way works best for me.
By brass shaper do you mean a stump shaper? A brass paddle on a stick? I use one and I've never found the orientation of the tool to be a problem.
If you get to the point that you want a specific tool there are people here in the States who would make you one to order I'm sure.
Just speaking from my own experience if you are a newbie I wouldn't buy a lot of tools yet, just some tweezers and a flat graphite paddle. Spend your money on practice glass because it will take you at least a year (unless you are insanely gifted like some people are, I was not) to get to know the glass.
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2011-03-03, 8:37am
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Thank you very much dear Astrid!! What I was looking for is something like a stump shaper. I found that all of them I've seen in the stores are shaped in a way that only right handers can use them.
You are right. I'll first start to practise getting use to the glass.
The only shaping tool that I've bought is this one.
At the moment I have an eye infection, so I couldn't use my newly setup working bench at all up to now To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
But I think this tool might be okay. What do you think?
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2011-03-03, 8:51am
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Get yourself a plain graphite marver. Something around the 2"x3" size. I still use that tool the most, and I think it came in my beginner kit 6 years ago.
For me, as a lefty who is somewhat ambidextrous, I find the biggest problem I have with tools is they are never on the side of the table I want them on. Sometimes I think I need two pairs of tweezers and two water bowls. I guess I use tools in both hands.
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2011-03-03, 9:25am
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I believe the tool in your picture is aluminum. It gets hot quickly. There are better options out there.
I'm a lefty and haven't had too many problems with tools. I'd suggest the following as a starting point: a graphite marver for shaping, a razor blade tool for straightening stringer lines (I like the chisel blade a lot), a tungsten pick for poking and dragging, tweezers for grabbing glass and pulling stringer, glass nippers and a mashing tool (or you can use your graphite marver and a torch mounted marver together to flatten beads).
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2011-03-03, 10:41am
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My suggestion re the Stump Marver (I don't own one) for a left hander would be to buy a couple small graphite pieces aprox. 25mm x 75mm x 8mm and use sand paper to form your own. Graphite is very easy to work with simple hand tools. Glue the sand paper to a flat surface that you can submerge in a shallow pan of water. Then work the piece against the paper submerged until you have the shape you want or need. The reason for the water is that graphite dust is very messy though non-toxic and will get on and into everything if you work it out in the open air.
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2011-03-03, 10:48am
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My suggestion re the Stump Marver (I don't own one) for a left hander would be to buy a couple small graphite pieces aprox. 25mm x 75mm x 8mm and use sand paper to form your own. Graphite is very easy to work with simple hand tools. Glue the sand paper to a flat surface that you can submerge in a shallow pan of water. Then work the piece against the paper submerged until you have the shape you want or need. The reason for the water is that graphite dust is very messy though non-toxic and will get on and into everything if you work it out in the open air.
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2011-03-03, 11:00am
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Welcome fellow Lefty! To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. I'm quite terminally left-handed, meaning if it weren't there to help me stay balanced and keep me from tipping over, I'd probably not even miss my right arm (except for pulling murrini gathers!) if it weren't there! To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
I've found that most all tools are hand-interchangeable, meaning that after a bit of practice, you get used to working around any orientation peculiarities and that you soon won't even give it a thought once you become used to it.
I think everyone's suggestions so far are great ones and wish you much fun and success in your new glass adventure!
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2011-03-03, 11:07am
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Welcome fellow Lefty! To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. I'm quite terminally left-handed, meaning if it weren't there to help me stay balanced and keep me from tipping over, I'd probably not even miss my right arm (except for pulling murrini gathers!) if it weren't there! To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
I've found that most all tools are hand-interchangeable, meaning that after a bit of practice, you get used to working around any orientation peculiarities and that you soon won't even give it a thought once you become used to it.
I think everyone's suggestions so far are great ones and wish you much fun and success in your new glass adventure!
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To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. I didn't know you were a lefty too De, how awesome!
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2011-03-03, 11:14am
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Wow I just had a look at your Murrini. They are gorgeous!!
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2011-03-03, 11:16am
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Thank you very much dear Astrid!! What I was looking for is something like a stump shaper. I found that all of them I've seen in the stores are shaped in a way that only right handers can use them.
You are right. I'll first start to practise getting use to the glass.
The only shaping tool that I've bought is this one.
At the moment I have an eye infection, so I couldn't use my newly setup working bench at all up to now To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
But I think this tool might be okay. What do you think?
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I hate that thing To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. but that's just me. I think it's still sitting in a vase somewhere, I never could get the knack of it. I agree totally with what Dragon said about the 2x3 graphite marver. I just dug around thinking I would send you my old one but I found it in pieces. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. I knew it had chips but I thought it was still useable. It was in the garage and I think hubby must have knocked it off rearranging things out there.
You can use just an old stainless steel butter knife as a great tool. File off the teeth and just be sure to quench and dry (when it gets hot dunk it in water to cool it and then quickly wipe it dry on something, I keep a towel beside my bench but I've been known to wipe mine dry on my jeans in a pinch To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. You'd be amazed how much you can do with kitchen tools! Just make sure they're stainless steel.
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2011-03-03, 11:18am
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I'm a lefty too, and have had to alter several of my tools.
Think of it as 'customization' To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. ; graphite and brass are easy to file and sand.
Good luck!
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2011-03-03, 11:59am
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Leftie here too and I agree, I have no problems using any tools. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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I'm left handed as well but to me lampworking tools are not like scissors (well, except the scissors To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. ) and are interchangeable. I keep presses on the left side of my bench and just turn them whichever way works best for me.
By brass shaper do you mean a stump shaper? A brass paddle on a stick? I use one and I've never found the orientation of the tool to be a problem.
If you get to the point that you want a specific tool there are people here in the States who would make you one to order I'm sure.
Just speaking from my own experience if you are a newbie I wouldn't buy a lot of tools yet, just some tweezers and a flat graphite paddle. Spend your money on practice glass because it will take you at least a year (unless you are insanely gifted like some people are, I was not) to get to know the glass.
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2011-03-03, 12:05pm
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Wow, look at all the lefties! I To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. being lefthanded.
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2011-03-03, 12:52pm
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I'm a leftie too To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. . In my opinion the Stump Shaper is definitely oriented toward right handed use. But that is the only tool I have found to be that way and I just don't use it as much as I thought I would. It's like any other activity - you learn to adapt. The biggest challenge I have found is working from tutorials that are written by and for right handed folks. It makes my brain tired To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. .
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2011-03-03, 4:33pm
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Wow, Maybe we should have a special leftie section here To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. . I didn't expect to have that much response to my question
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2011-03-03, 4:33pm
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I have brass 'Stump Shapers' in both left handed and right handed versions.
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2011-03-03, 6:55pm
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Mikes brass tools come in left handed, I have a couple of them...and love them!
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2011-03-03, 7:47pm
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Ooh how cool is that? I think I need to check out your site.
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Here I am another leftie and proud of it!! As for Malcolm, he is great to buy from and you can be sure you will get what you want!! I would be glad to send you a list that I bought after taking beginner lessons. I bought from a list my instructor gave me, and that is all I used for a long time. And they didn't cost very much, either.
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2011-03-03, 10:23pm
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Aaaaaaaaaaaargh Malcolm, did you really need to show me that? Now I want it. NOT fair.
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2011-03-03, 10:52pm
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Yet another reason why I just luv'z you Malcolm! To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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2011-03-03, 11:00pm
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Oh, great Mal, NOW you tell me it comes in left-handed?! LOL. Yep, I too am left-handed, and I agree the Stump Shaper (a recent acquisition for me) is more right-handed than I thought it would be. With practice, though, I don't think it will be much of an issue. Doesn't surprise me that there are so many left-handers chiming in, after all, we supposed to be more right brained, so the creative would come naturally to us, right? I mean, uh, left....
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2011-03-03, 11:58pm
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Oh, great Mal, NOW you tell me it comes in left-handed?! LOL. Yep, I too am left-handed, and I agree the Stump Shaper (a recent acquisition for me) is more right-handed than I thought it would be. With practice, though, I don't think it will be much of an issue. Doesn't surprise me that there are so many left-handers chiming in, after all, we supposed to be more right brained, so the creative would come naturally to us, right? I mean, uh, left....
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Or then there's "Only the left-handed are in their right minds" To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
I don't think that applies to me though. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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2011-03-04, 12:21am
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thank you Malcolm
Hello Malcolm,
so I'll order one of them!! But the postal fee and the customs are very expensive. So let me see if I can find some other things to order To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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2011-03-04, 7:36am
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so I'll order one of them!! But the postal fee and the customs are very expensive. So let me see if I can find some other things to order To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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.....aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it begins. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
The disease all lampworkers share, "I really shouldn't pay all this money to get this here without making it worth my while so let me see, there must be something else I need...."
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2011-03-04, 3:29pm
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I am "very" left-handed. I was teaching once and my student was duplicating what I had just showed her and she said to me "Ummm...can I switch hands?" OOPS! Sometimes I forget the world ISN'T left-handed.
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2011-03-04, 3:56pm
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I am a lefty too! I want Malcolm's stump shaper now...I agree the original is for righties mainly.
Who knew all these peeps wer also lefties?
I have found it to be sometimes difficult when taking a class although all my teachers have been wonderful about it! Of course, all my teachers are wonderful, since I have taken classes only @ Blue Moon.(Shameless plug for my fav glass place-not that they need it)
Lefties of the torch, unite!
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2011-03-04, 7:57pm
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I am going to get down there and take some classes some time this year. I am too close not to do that and I've heard so many good things about Blue Moon. Plus I bought my creation station and my shield from there and both transactions were flawless.
I need to find time for a road trip. Seriously.
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2011-03-05, 1:30am
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I am going to get down there and take some classes some time this year. I am too close not to do that and I've heard so many good things about Blue Moon. Plus I bought my creation station and my shield from there and both transactions were flawless.
I need to find time for a road trip. Seriously.
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I bought my creation station there too. My teacher recommended them to me.
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