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2009-11-06, 1:14am
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using Cyanite with boro
Hi, I just saw Orange Cyanite (boro compatable) for sale at ABR. How do you use it? Is it used in a simular way that goldstone is used with soft glass? I have never seen it on boro beads, so would love to see some pictures, if anyone has any to share. Thanks, Cynthia in Australia
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2009-11-06, 6:21am
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So I looked up canite,
Cyanite has got the chemical formula Al2[O|SiO4] and so it is an aluminium silicate. This mineral has got the name cyanite, because it is often blue. Another name for cyanite is disthene. The reason for this name is that cyanite has got a different hardness in different directions. In the longitudinal direction the hardness is 4 and across it is 7. The difference is very big. Usually cyanite is found in form of long and relative thin crystals which are blue. Mostly cyanite is transparent. Jewels are also made of cyanite, but not very often. Cyanit can found in Brazil, in India, in Australia, in Austria, in Switzerland and in the USA.
Data about Cyanite
Chemical formula Al2[O|SiO4]
Mineral class silicates
Crystal system triclinical
Hardness 4 (at full length) 7 (across)
Density 3.6 g/cm3 to 3.7 g/cm3
Color colorless, white, green, blue
Line color white
Gloss glass gloss
Break inflexibly
Fissileness perfectly
It has some interesting properties. I wonder what Fissileness in Gem talk is? Sounds like fun to try if nothing else.
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2009-11-06, 11:01am
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I have no idea what you are talking about.
Buy some. Use it. Tell me if I should do the same.
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2009-11-06, 12:03pm
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Marbles, dude, Marbles
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We don't already have enough really cool stuff to play with?
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2009-11-06, 12:05pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gmkcpa
We don't already have enough really cool stuff to play with?
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The one who dies with the most cool stuff wins.
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2009-11-06, 3:48pm
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Quote:
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We don't already have enough really cool stuff to play with?
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2009-11-06, 5:36pm
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Thanks for the comments. I have ordered some, how would you recommend I use it- clear encased & heat to pull into a stringer? Regards, Cynthia
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2009-11-06, 5:37pm
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Do you have a link with pics?
I'm curious about what this stuff is.
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2009-11-06, 5:39pm
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Ah, found it
http://www.dichroicimagery.com/produ...ducts_id=85651
Doesn't look sparkly, looks like crystals.
I'm guessing that you don't melt it, you encase it.
That's what I'd do first, get a big honkin gob of clear and
stick a crystal inside. Then shape it into a (whatever) and
anneal normally. See if it cracks or looks icky, and then go
from there.
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2009-11-07, 10:45am
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oh, is it another hippie-rock thing?
like tektite or moldavite. the old, heat up and stick on piece. not such a big fan. if you can heat it up and pull it out (like tektite) this would be cool.
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2009-12-28, 7:17am
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HAS ANYONE USED THIS STUFF YET? ANY PICS OF FINISHED ITEMS? i AM SOOO CURIOUS!
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2009-12-28, 4:38pm
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It says it's $4... 4$ for WHAT? One... two... three... a pound?
It's a hippie rock thing H... I've seen some stuff done with it that "rocks"... yeah... go ahead and groan... I just did. Carl made a geode with some inside and it looks awshum!
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2009-12-28, 9:42pm
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Heavens to Betsy! Guys - It is Kyanite. Spelled with a "K". Aluminum Silicate (AI2SiO5) - Normally you see it in Blue - also comes in black (Russia), White, Colorless, Gray and green. This orange stuff must have some other minerals mixed in to create the orange color. It happens. Hardness is 4 to 5 lengthwise and 6 to 7 crosswise. It usually is found in bladed crystal, that seems fibrous, sometimes ending in a crystal. Not wise to get this stuff wet, it is almost impossible to polish as the blades keep popping out and creating cracks just when you think you are done..................... Most of the blue comes from Brazil, the black from Russia. Sometimes found in California, No. Carolina and Georgia in the States. Kyanite is derived from the Greek word kyanos which means dark blue. I will try to get a picture posted tomorrow for you all.
End of lesson!
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2009-12-30, 5:42pm
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pic of orange cyanite
Hi, I am only a newbe, but I tried the orange cyanite on a bead. I was not pleased with the results. Firstly I encased a small thin sliver in boro clear, Then tried to melt it to pull into a stringer (like in soft glass & goldstone). It will not soften. So I just made a black bead & put the cyanite (encased in clear) onto the middle of one side. It looked pretty boreing, so I added abit of
swirls in colored glass. I don't think the results was worth it & for $4, you only get a couple of small slivers. Thanks.
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2009-12-30, 6:05pm
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hmmm interesting thanks for posting.
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