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Old 2017-07-09, 8:11pm
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Now that EDP is no longer available, what would be a good substitute?
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Old 2017-07-09, 8:52pm
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Purple rose
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Old 2017-07-09, 9:47pm
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I agree. I wonder how some enamel will work on that? Some dark orchid maybe to give it that pink?
I was JUST about to list a new style of production bead using edp too, guess not.
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Old 2017-07-10, 8:05am
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Well, maybe CIM will come up with something.
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Old 2017-07-10, 6:42pm
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Is purple rose a Reichenbach 104COE or 96COE glass and does it debit like the EDP does?
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Old 2017-07-10, 7:27pm
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I believe it comes in both COEs, and it did devit for me, but I was able to finish the bead, cool it a bit, then reheat gently to a surface glow to remove it if memory serves.
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Old 2017-07-13, 12:37pm
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Is purple rose a Reichenbach 104COE or 96COE glass and does it debit like the EDP does?
It's very very close. But like Z-99, there will not be a perfect match to EDP.
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Old 2017-07-13, 12:53pm
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Has anyone learned WHY they are discontinuing EDP?? I am just in shock, as that is one of the longtime staples in my glassy world.
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Old 2017-07-13, 2:17pm
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Has anyone learned WHY they are discontinuing EDP?? I am just in shock, as that is one of the longtime staples in my glassy world.
Mike said something about the availability of ingredients.
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Old 2017-07-13, 2:59pm
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Regulations by the Italian government for use of the ingredients needed to make the glass. Sort of what Bullseye went through recently. Shame!
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Old 2017-07-13, 3:14pm
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Regulations by the Italian government for use of the ingredients needed to make the glass. Sort of what Bullseye went through recently. Shame!
How is it the same as Bullseye? I haven't heard the ins and outs of the reason they regulated it now rather than years ago.
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Old 2017-07-13, 3:18pm
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I found it. Not exactly like Bullseye. This has been in play for years.

https://newsletter.echa.europa.eu/ho...ay-in-business
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I don't know the ins & outs either, just comparing the issue of regulations being applied more frequently to our glass manufacturers.

I suspect this has been going on for some time, though, as I can't recall the last time Frantz had EDP in stock or when Effetre would have done their last run with it.

I wonder if it will affect any other colors?
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Old 2017-07-13, 8:13pm
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I guess not having EDP will change all those recipes for making the various beads that have those super reactions when you use EDP. 😕
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Does anyone know where to find purple rose frit
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Does anyone know where to find purple rose frit
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THX Kathy.
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Old 2017-07-16, 8:37pm
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I found it. Not exactly like Bullseye. This has been in play for years.

https://newsletter.echa.europa.eu/ho...ay-in-business
Thanks, Shardi. I am still just in shock over no more EDP. I haven't bought any in quite a while because I had, ummm, stocked up excessively years ago. But now that I know I can't buy it anymore, what's left of my little stockpile looks horrifyingly small.
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Old 2017-07-16, 9:21pm
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Thanks so much for the information. This is way ventilation is sooooooo important.
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Old 2017-07-16, 10:26pm
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Thanks, Shardi. I am still just in shock over no more EDP. I haven't bought any in quite a while because I had, ummm, stocked up excessively years ago. But now that I know I can't buy it anymore, what's left of my little stockpile looks horrifyingly small.
As horrifying as 2 rods? That's what I have
I don't even know what to do with them honestly, twisties? Stringer?
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Old 2017-07-18, 5:47am
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As horrifying as 2 rods? That's what I have
I don't even know what to do with them honestly, twisties? Stringer?
Oh man, this is exactly how I feel about my three remaining rods of Vetro Lemongrass, it's just sitting there & I can't bring myself to use it!

With EDP, I feel like it will go the route of Z-99, frit will become increasingly popular.

Two rods would make enough frit for several bead sets
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Old 2017-07-22, 4:29am
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It's arsenic, apparently. Not a problem in using the glass, but I can see why it might be an issue for the factory, employeess, and neighborhood.
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