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Old 2007-08-24, 11:17am
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WOW-thanks so much Kevan!! I will try that method out for sure!
thank you thank you!!
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Old 2007-08-24, 12:32pm
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Hmmm....so is this.

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Old 2007-08-24, 12:46pm
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LOL. Here's the trick. Don't lay it down nice on the mandrel. Dab it on, swirl it around, mix it up and then heat the heck out of it. Heat it, cool it, reduce it, un reduce it, cool it, heat it. Don't be nice to it.
I didn't do anything to it but make a simple spacer and immediately put it in the kiln. I haven't tried playing with it yet. I just wanted to see what it looks like plain because I like the color.

I'll have to try your way next.
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Old 2007-08-24, 12:47pm
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haa haa, with that method, mine should be beautiful, I never seem to be nice enough with my glass
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Old 2007-08-24, 12:48pm
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It's a nice sort of amberish color with the luster effect if you don't be mean to it, also. And it seems to stay like that when it's a thin layer like it would be in a little spacer.

It seems to like it rough.
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Old 2007-08-24, 8:45pm
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This is T-25 on Vetro black encased...I tried it on Vetro black unencased and the colors were to dark to see...probably should have cooled/heated more. Unfortunately my clear hazed on me so I have to make more.

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Oh! Those are very pretty, Sherry! I have some of the T-25 coming - can't wait to play
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Thank you Mary Beth
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Please be gentle and take into consideration that I'm on a HH with 1 pound mapp gas, but here are the odds that I played with - all are hollows (and that darned Elektra one popped a hole on me, but did get a nice pink sheen):



Kevan - DH should pay you for advertising! Damn those are gorgeous!
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Old 2007-08-24, 10:00pm
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Wow, Sherry those are beautiful!

fritobsesed, you have a whole chart going there. I have another odd lot, I'm not sure which it is. I need to go try it.

Damn I wish I had gotten more of them when they were right there in front of me!!
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Old 2007-08-24, 10:43pm
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This is T-25 on Vetro black encased...I tried it on Vetro black unencased and the colors were to dark to see...probably should have cooled/heated more. Unfortunately my clear hazed on me so I have to make more.

Whoa, Sherry, those are gorgeous!

I bought some T-25 from Galaxy Glass (thanks Nagibeads!) and now I can't wait for it to get here! Woohoo!
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Old 2007-08-24, 11:22pm
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I just made a bead from the other kind I have. It looks like amber with a tan stripe inside. I'm not sure what the number is,but I used it over clear and it looks really boro like. I can't wait to see it tomorrow.
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Please be gentle and take into consideration that I'm on a HH with 1 pound mapp gas, but here are the odds that I played with - all are hollows (and that darned Elektra one popped a hole on me, but did get a nice pink sheen):



Kevan - DH should pay you for advertising! Damn those are gorgeous!
wow!!!
THOSE ARE HOTHEAD BEADS???
yay!!! there's hope for me yet!!!
(i'm on a hothead!)
I really think the silverglass companies should use some hothead users beads on their pages as advertisements (maybe not oddlots but regular colors?) so those of us on babytorches know which glasses really can be worked with *our* setups!!

And Nagi--I like the pastelly bead! (I'm not a big "olive" color fan, so I actually like the pastel "after" color on the ends better I'm such a weirdo!)
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Old 2007-08-25, 7:56am
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Sherry- Wow--those beads are cool! you got so much color!!! Bravo! I have some in the kiln--I am crossing my fingers and toes that they look like yours!


MJ-Whoa!! Those are nice!! I am soooo loving your silver color beads you have been posting lately!! WOW!!! And thank you so much for putting the names of the odd lots next to the bead!! I've been thinking lately, 'gosh, maybe I need to get a Hot Head like MJ' after seeing your wonderful silver color beads!!!
And Lyn-- thank you so much for the kind words on my pastelly bead! I appreciate it!


Here is T-28 from the same kilning as the T-25....890F....It stayed purple(woohoo!), but the Terra dots and swirls over it turned beige and look just like the copper green dashes...
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Old 2007-08-25, 9:03am
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THOSE ARE HOTHEAD BEADS???
yay!!! there's hope for me yet!!!
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I really think the silverglass companies should use some hothead users beads on their pages as advertisements (maybe not oddlots but regular colors?) so those of us on babytorches know which glasses really can be worked with *our* setups!!
Thanks Luna! There's lots of info on both the Silver Color how to exchange threads for HH users in the Patio as well as the book with tips the Hayley put together. FYI - I'm using the 1 pound mapp canisters and I'm not sure if that makes a difference or not.

I agree with having HH testers for the silver glasses. I never would've bought the striking glasses from R4 (Van Gogh, Davinci 2) had I realized that it needs to get super hot in order for it to do anything. My little torch just doesn't get hot enough for those and I'm sure that would probably apply to Dali & Michaelangelo. I get color sometimes out of Terra, so I know it's possible, I just haven't figured out exactly what I did when it does work to be able to reproduce it yet.
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MJ-Whoa!! Those are nice!! I am soooo loving your silver color beads you have been posting lately!! WOW!!! And thank you so much for putting the names of the odd lots next to the bead!! I've been thinking lately, 'gosh, maybe I need to get a Hot Head like MJ' after seeing your wonderful silver color beads!!!
That's so sweet Nagi. It's only the reducing glasses that I can get to work (and Terra sometimes).

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Here is T-28 from the same kilning as the T-25....890F....It stayed purple(woohoo!), but the Terra dots and swirls over it turned beige and look just like the copper green dashes...
Dayum woman! My T28 didn't turn out anything like that! Gorgeous color. Was that entirely T28 as the base or did you put it over something, and did you strike it before or after you encased it??
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Thank you Kevan, San, and Nagi

I'm going to hopefully play some more. I love all those colors Nagi.. I just got some T28 in and going to see what it does.
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I just made a bead from the other kind I have. It looks like amber with a tan stripe inside. I'm not sure what the number is,but I used it over clear and it looks really boro like. I can't wait to see it tomorrow.
Kevan, that sounds just like my H25. I made some handles on a vessel by stacking dots, and it came out with more color. Very dark browns, but you can definitely see the individual dots I placed while making the handles. Oh yeah, and I'm on a Hot Head!

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I agree with having HH testers for the silver glasses. ... I get color sometimes out of Terra, so I know it's possible, I just haven't figured out exactly what I did when it does work to be able to reproduce it yet.
Me three! It is really insulting to me that because I'm on a hot head, the glass companies are ignoring me and my needs. Considering how much glass a newbie goes through during the learning process, I would think it would be more profitable. Besides, I am almost not a newbie anymore, and I really like what I've learned by using a hot head. I will always use it, even when I "grow up."

I LOVE terra!!!!! Always get color, straight or encased. Try poking it deeply and then put a dot of clear on top of the poke. Amazing gradations of deep purple in the bottom moving out toward green.

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Great beads everyone. Cool colors. I like the variety even when it isn't as expected.

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Hey Mona & MJ--I sooooo hear ya! I mean, it only makes sense--there's LOADS of hothead users, and not "all" of us are beginners--I mean, look at Nikki the Sheep Goddess, and *Naos*/Amber, they both use Hothead torches pretty much exclusively & have expressed no desire to upgrade. So does Sarah Hornik (I probably spelled her name wrong...) I believe--and her beads are amazing! We're talking beadmakers who are well known in the community & go through *lots* of glass & make *amazing* beads!

I think Mary Moth used her hothead for something like 2 or 3 years before she upgraded too--she was doing jellyfish on it! Jacinthe/Sarah in the netherlands used hers for a very long time & made some amazing stuff as well! It's *not* just a "beginner" torch! There are people who push it far beyond newbie beads!

I won't be upgrading mine anytime soon either--a kiln is definitely first, (and that may be years away ) and then better living quarters (again...who knows when!) so knowing what works & how would definitely be an "enticement to buy"! The glass companies should realize that just because some of us "use cheap torches" doesn't mean they should discount us as potential customers for their glass...I think they're missing an entire customer base!

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I agree about the hot head as a fine torch and the testing. If there is a goal to make an item standard production, a range of testing situations would be ideal.
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Love your dedication!! Kiln before home!!

And, less money on the torch means more money in glass!

And, I LOVE all those beadmakers you listed. They DO make fab beads!

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Dayum woman! My T28 didn't turn out anything like that! Gorgeous color. Was that entirely T28 as the base or did you put it over something, and did you strike it before or after you encased it??
Thanks MJ!
It is all T-28 as a base with Terra and red copper green stringer over it. No encasing I waited till the bead was finished to do the cool and strike in the back of the flame thing....T-26 came out of the kiln today...it struck awesome in the flame and lost a bit out of the kiln, but still nice. I'll post a pic in a bit. I tried a bit of Terra and some of it struck and stayed and some of it struck and turned back to brown....so I am thinking it could be how it is handled that makes the colors strike and stay. The one bead where I really over did it and then cooled and struck it again stayed a very nice purple where the other parts that I babied reverted to brown....hmmmm..........

Sherry-thank you!
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c71 - I love this one it turned out a sort of peachy amber that reduced well


T25 - Nice color with light reduction


H25 - Reduced


K66 - Love this one too!


C70 - Another favorite


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I mean, look at Nikki the Sheep Goddess, and *Naos*/Amber, they both use Hothead torches pretty much exclusively & have expressed no desire to upgrade. So does Sarah Hornik (I probably spelled her name wrong...) I believe--and her beads are amazing! We're talking beadmakers who are well known in the community & go through *lots* of glass & make *amazing* beads!
Actually, you're one of the only people to ever spell it right.
Thanks!
And I absolutely agree about HotHead testing for new colors. Stop the discrimination! HotHeads RULE!
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Donna--WOW!! I am loving your beads!!
Oh my, I must run outside and make some beads!!! Love the lusters you got!! WOOHOO!!!
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This is T28 over Dk Violet transparent encased in R4 diamond clear:



I didn't get the purples like you did Nagi, but I'm pretty happy with it!
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Hey Mona & MJ--I sooooo hear ya! I mean, it only makes sense--there's LOADS of hothead users, and not "all" of us are beginners--I mean, look at Nikki the Sheep Goddess, and *Naos*/Amber, they both use Hothead torches pretty much exclusively & have expressed no desire to upgrade. So does Sarah Hornik (I probably spelled her name wrong...) I believe--and her beads are amazing! We're talking beadmakers who are well known in the community & go through *lots* of glass & make *amazing* beads!

I think Mary Moth used her hothead for something like 2 or 3 years before she upgraded too--she was doing jellyfish on it! Jacinthe/Sarah in the netherlands used hers for a very long time & made some amazing stuff as well! It's *not* just a "beginner" torch! There are people who push it far beyond newbie beads!

I won't be upgrading mine anytime soon either--a kiln is definitely first, (and that may be years away ) and then better living quarters (again...who knows when!) so knowing what works & how would definitely be an "enticement to buy"! The glass companies should realize that just because some of us "use cheap torches" doesn't mean they should discount us as potential customers for their glass...I think they're missing an entire customer base!

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I agree! I have no plans of getting a hotter torch anytime soon either. It would be great to have these new glasses tested on our torch too.
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Old 2007-08-28, 1:15pm
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This is T28 over Dk Violet transparent encased in R4 diamond clear:



I didn't get the purples like you did Nagi, but I'm pretty happy with it!
WOOHOO! I love the color you got MJ!! And the Psyche beads you did were just.....WOW! Purple metallic holey cow--I want to go home right now and torch!!!
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Old 2007-08-28, 5:49pm
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WOOHOO! I love the color you got MJ!! And the Psyche beads you did were just.....WOW! Purple metallic holey cow--I want to go home right now and torch!!!
You sure are good for my self esteem!! Thanks!
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