|
2015-08-20, 1:38pm
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Nov 29, 2011
Location: Costa Rica
Posts: 45
|
|
Oxycon + Tanked linked together.
Hi everyone,
I almost certain of the answer I'm going to get from you, but does anyone here work with an oxycon+tanked oxygen setup only linked in together by a "T" or "Y" pipe connector?. I've read lots of threads and all of them advise that it is not recommended due to the pressure that the tank generates, it could create a flashback into the oxycon with the oxygen that's coming out of it , right?. But what if both are setup at the same pressure (psi), for example, I got an M20 from unlimited oxygen (that still works perfectly, thanks jack!), that is supposed to run at 10 liters per minute/20 psi, and this week I got a normal oxygen tank that I plan to set at the same pressure (or maybe less) with the regulator and I plan to use the connector that's in the photo attached.
I want to hear about your thoughts/suggestions/advise, etc.
|
2015-08-20, 1:56pm
|
|
I fart diamonds
|
|
Join Date: Jun 14, 2005
Location: Altamonte Springs, FL
Posts: 3,893
|
|
Why would you have them hooked together? Generally, it's oxycon on the center flame & tanked on the outer. Hooking them together kinda defeats the purpose.
Are you positive that the oxycon is actually pushing 20psi? If you put a check valve on the line from the oxycon and set the tank at 20psi, you shouldn't have any issues.
__________________
-Shawnette the original "everybody get a grip" girl
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2015-08-20, 3:09pm
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Nov 29, 2011
Location: Costa Rica
Posts: 45
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by shawnette
Why would you have them hooked together? Generally, it's oxycon on the center flame & tanked on the outer. Hooking them together kinda defeats the purpose.
Are you positive that the oxycon is actually pushing 20psi? If you put a check valve on the line from the oxycon and set the tank at 20psi, you shouldn't have any issues.
|
To increase the amount of oxygen that feeds my torch. I have a GTT Cheetah, and the oxycon by itself is not enough, I get a good flame but not the one I would want. This torch is triple mix but it does not have inner or outer jets, all 13 jets work together as a whole.
Not positive at a 100% but those are the specs for that oxycon, I would have to find out where to buy a check valve to prevent flashback.
|
2015-08-20, 4:50pm
|
|
I fart diamonds
|
|
Join Date: Jun 14, 2005
Location: Altamonte Springs, FL
Posts: 3,893
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Afro1621
To increase the amount of oxygen that feeds my torch. I have a GTT Cheetah, and the oxycon by itself is not enough, I get a good flame but not the one I would want. This torch is triple mix but it does not have inner or outer jets, all 13 jets work together as a whole.
Not positive at a 100% but those are the specs for that oxycon, I would have to find out where to buy a check valve to prevent flashback.
|
The check valve doesn't prevent flashback; it prevents backflow. Flashback arresters prevent flashback.
I am familiar with the Cheetah (had one). It isn't very efficient. I'm still not sure that running the oxycon with a tank will be of any benefit, unless you crank the tank pressure down. Seems to me that you're just using up electricity. You could add a 2nd concentrator, or a holding tank... (I used a holding tank & 2 oxycons with mine.)
Anyway, let us know if it works!
__________________
-Shawnette the original "everybody get a grip" girl
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2015-08-21, 7:37pm
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 18, 2007
Posts: 568
|
|
I don't think I'd hook it up at the full 20psi. Not sure I'd do it at all, but if I did, I'd experiment with lower pressures first.
|
2015-08-21, 9:59pm
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 27, 2014
Location: Walla Walla, Washington
Posts: 289
|
|
Its just a bad idea. Kind of pointless. Run one or the other.
If you need more heat and power then run tanked alone.
I ran my cheetah on an 8lpm 15psi oxycon and it did real nice, I could make an 1-1/2" boro marble no trouble.
This is what you use to run an oxycon and a tank. My new baby..
|
2015-08-22, 11:43am
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 07, 2011
Location: Northern California
Posts: 2,023
|
|
Stop using the oxycon and just run off the tank. As shawnette said I think your wasting the electric to run the oxycon. I dont think its contribution would add any value at all.
|
2015-08-23, 3:12pm
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Nov 29, 2011
Location: Costa Rica
Posts: 45
|
|
The main reason why I wanted to hook them up together was to add more oxygen flow to the torch, it may not be a good idea to set them up at the same psi as you said, however I already tried running them together and they work just as I expected, the oxycon set at 10lpm and the tank at 5-8lpm; it does get the boost I need to get a decent flame plus I save the oxy in the tank, wich is other reason why I wanted to do this setup.
|
2015-08-23, 6:45pm
|
|
balanced but asymmetrical
|
|
Join Date: Mar 17, 2006
Location: Oregon
Posts: 519
|
|
So, it's the oxygen purity that you are boosting; rather than the flow rate.
Do you have a way to gauge how much tanked O2 you save this way?
Glad it is working for you.
__________________
'...pinpoint the problem, fix it like magic, and then move on.' --AuntD
. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. .
|
2015-08-25, 8:40am
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 07, 2011
Location: Northern California
Posts: 2,023
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Afro1621
The main reason why I wanted to hook them up together was to add more oxygen flow to the torch, it may not be a good idea to set them up at the same psi as you said, however I already tried running them together and they work just as I expected, the oxycon set at 10lpm and the tank at 5-8lpm; it does get the boost I need to get a decent flame plus I save the oxy in the tank, wich is other reason why I wanted to do this setup.
|
Only time will tell. I suspect it is now primarily running off the tanked and the oxycon is not adding much if any value. I am not even sure, short of using a Power monitor, how to determine if this is buying you anything. Was the tank full when you started? If so, please let us know how long it lasts.
|
2015-08-25, 6:48pm
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Nov 29, 2011
Location: Costa Rica
Posts: 45
|
|
I'm tracking the amount of hours I've spent behind the torch. I'll let you know the results. But I guess we need something to compare it against. Does any of you works with 5-8 psi while running a tank?
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:46pm.
|