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Old 2013-02-17, 12:14pm
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Default Brass Frit Golden Bubbles Information and Sharing

I wanted to start a thread for the brass frit to share information and beads. I have sold this before so I wanted to post some information that might be helpful for great results.

Also, I would love to see some of YOUR beads that you have made with it.

This is a short tutorial that I sent out with the frit. I'm not sure everyone that purchased from me before got one. There is also more information that I wanted to add.

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Brass Frit
Make sure when applying your frit, you do it well into the bead. In other words, on the first or second layer of glass applied. Otherwise they can come to the surface, pop and leave a big gaping hole. You only need about 15 or so pieces depending on how large your bead is however, you can add more or less and adjust to your liking.

Spread the frit on your marver so that they are separated and not in a pile. Roll the very hot bead over the frit. You might have to do this a couple of times to pick up all that you want. The frit sometimes has to absorb some of the heat from your bead to stick.

As you work your bead, the bubbles will start to "grow". When I make my florals, I don't force "grow" the bubbles. As the florals take some time to create, by the time I am done with the bead the bubbles have formed perfectly just during the process. For bead that are quick, like spacers or small beads, you might have to work a "growing" the bubbles and you can control how large you want them.

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Do not put the raw frit into the flame. It will spark and spit. Once you have it on your bead, encase it immediately.

Here is what I wanted to add. I have noticed that if the brass is applied to certain glasses, it will turn black or a dark bronze. It almost looks dirty. It must be the added metals that are sometimes used to make the glass. I find that the best results are to sandwich the brass between two layers of clear. Pale aqua will turn it dark so regular clear is best. So, if you are making a bead with a colored center, just coat it with clear before adding the brass.

Soooo.....get out that brass and please show your work here
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Old 2013-02-18, 9:23am
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Thanks Cynthia,

I love brass I got from you I use it all the time.

here are some pics from me this one came out supper nice.



And this bead came out nice but is showing how it looks when it reacts this is with dark aqua.



Thanks for posting this,

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Old 2013-02-18, 9:56am
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Perfect example of what I was explaining. Thank you John for posting your pics. Your rose bead is beautiful and so are your murrini!!!
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Old 2013-02-18, 10:51am
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John - I really like how the bubbles set off the roses - well done!

I think this is Kelp... was that Effetre?



I need to get out my brass shavings again...now where could they be?

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Old 2013-02-18, 10:57am
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Adorable Teri. Have no idea what glass that is. I am so bad at glass colors and numbers. I am a strictly "grab as I go" lampworker.
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Old 2013-02-18, 8:45pm
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Has anyone try this with boro?
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Old 2013-02-18, 8:56pm
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I had someone ask and I have no idea how that would work. I don't have any laying around to try it.
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Old 2013-02-19, 9:16am
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How small are the shavings that you use. I had a little bottle marked brass shaving given to me in a box of silver supplies and thought maybe I should give it a go because I think those bubbles are cool.
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Old 2013-02-19, 10:05am
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Mine are about the size of a petite flea LOL! Don't know what to compare them to. They are flat and oblong. I would definitely try what you have.
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Here is an older thread about brass frit...
http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=139952
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THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!

I got some brass frit in a big buy from the garage a while back and have been moving it from one side of my table to the other. Now I get it and I can't wait to give it a shot.

Thanks so much for sharing

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Old 2013-02-19, 4:39pm
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Good luck Dweezil. Post a picture if you can.
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Old 2013-02-21, 4:12pm
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I want to see beads. Has anyone made anything yet?

I made these with some silver glass. Don't know what color though but I usually don't LOL!

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Old 2013-02-21, 11:57pm
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I don't have frit, but made 4 beads yesterday where I use brass wire, extremely thin gauge. Will post some pics in a day or so. Had forgotten how nice these bubbles can turn out, with a nice metallic sheen that you don't get with baking soda bubbles.
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Old 2013-02-22, 4:14am
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I used wire when I made these, they are a couple of years old. I have frit now too, I had forgotten how much fun they are to make!

I like to use a striking silver glass and as you do, I encase in clear before adding the wire. I then add a couple of layers of clear to give enough depth to keep the bubbles in there.



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Old 2013-02-22, 7:55am
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I know right? They are so different then soda bubbles. I'll come back later to check them out.

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I don't have frit, but made 4 beads yesterday where I use brass wire, extremely thin gauge. Will post some pics in a day or so. Had forgotten how nice these bubbles can turn out, with a nice metallic sheen that you don't get with baking soda bubbles.
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Beautiful Ness, I love the green ones. Yes, I also sandwich them in between clear to keep them golden. As stated above, putting them against certain colors will make them dark and look dirty. Thanks for showing them.
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I love those bubble beads !
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here are some made last week - LOTS of pics

I use 28 gauge brass wire, and usually cut a length about 8 inches and hold it with locking tweezers to apply.

These beads all have a dark base, with some sort of twisty stringer applied. Smooth into a barrel/tube. Then I get the bead hot enough so that the wire will stick, but not hot enough to be droopy. Heat a tip of the wire quickly in flame (it will spark)- attach to bead near bead hole, and spin the mandrel to get the wire wrapped onto the bead. I Usually then give it a quick roll on graphite to just firm up the attachments.

And in the application, sometimes sections break, or spark away. And that is OK. I just try to keep that to a minimum.

Then I encase the bead, being careful to just have my encasing rod in the flame and not the bead. Encase, melt in encasing, and then usually a second full layer of encasing.

These then have surface layer decorations of silvered glasses, which means there is even additional time for bubble growth, as these are heated and cooled a few times to get color development.

I love the golden color of bubbles from using brass. And did try one with a blue glass, putting the wire right on the pale blue, and doo see how then the bubbles are more black and silvery.




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I got my frit and tried it last week - was going to post my miserable beads on Monday but my kitty was sick. He's home and better now, I'm broke but happier!

These are NOT very good beads, but the bubbles came out nice!!!




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Love them they are great.
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Thanks Cynthia for sharing. The beads are superb with brass!!!!
Where I can to buy it?
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The beads look wonderful. Ana Maria, unfortunately I have run out. I might get more in the future. You can though, use brass wire. It will give a bit of a different effect like a bubble line, but looks great too.
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Hi Cynthia,
I was on a trip, but when I returned my brass frit had arrived! Thank you!
I just experimented with it last night and was happy that I could do it! I just wanted to try it with clear glass and was so happy to get these golden bubbles. I had clear bubbles in a second bead, rather than golden - did I heat that one longer to get the clear? I can't remember!
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Judy, did you use different clears? Also, the bigger the bubbles, the more golden and lighter they become. Like blowing up a balloon.
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Cynthia, I might have used different clears, but I'm not sure. The beads with the clear bubbles is quite a bit bigger than the golden bubbles.

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Got my package from you today (Thursday). Thanks for such quick service!

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I tried and it turned brass wire. Also, I grate a little brass wire in a jeweler's file and I got a little dusty brass. Today I'll prove it.
Thank you all for the tips, especially Cynthia!!!!
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