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2007-11-03, 11:19pm
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Looking for Boro Help
There is so much talent here, I asked if we could post a request and was told to go ahead... so here it is.
We have started a “Boro Newbie” thread on the Wet Canvas forum in response to a need expressed by many of us having trouble finding classes for boro where we live. We are looking for experienced artists for assistance. What we are asking for is a single project with very specific, easy to follow instructions (heat, timing, location in the flame, annealing time and temps…we have a wide range of experiance). I would post the supply list provided by you early (about two weeks out) to allow people time to get what was needed. We would then work your project for two weeks. We are looking for help with colors and shapes. I am starting to look for projects that would be suitable for an intermediate level.
If you are willing, you can schedule the month you would like to participate to fit your schedule. I am currently looking for projects starting in Feb. We have some very motivated people who are begging to learn. I truly hope you will be able to join us in our journey. If you know of other artists who might want to help please give them my contact information. If you have any questions or suggestions please contact me.
Thank You!!!
Karen Draper KAOSFL@sw.rr.com
Trike girl on Wet Canvas
Wet Canvas Glass Lobby address http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=91
The official stuff: Please keep in mind while we can not promote the sale of a specific product on WC we can explain how to get specific colors to work for example.
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2007-11-04, 10:59am
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I'd love to, but I'm banned from that board...
If I wasn't, I'd gladly help you out.
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2007-11-04, 12:22pm
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I wish you could help... your work is beautiful.
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2007-11-04, 2:10pm
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You can speak to the moderators. They banned me because I asked one of them what their definition of "artwork" was. They replied by banning me.
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2007-11-04, 3:09pm
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What about doing one on this board too then the people who don't go over to wetcanvas much could still see this?
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2007-11-04, 3:53pm
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There should be a newbie area here in the boro room. Maybe a torch/set up area, color study area, project area, problem solving etc...Karen is doing a fab job with the boro newbie thread on W.C.
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2007-11-04, 4:06pm
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I agree Lori - Karen is doing a fab job with the thread over there...it'd be great to have such a thing here as well...
Thing is Karen, after seeing your work, I figure you should be posting here in the Show and Tell, etc - you're no newbie - that's for sure - your work is beautiful! 
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2007-11-04, 4:53pm
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Hi All
I did a little tut for them over there....It is probably one of the most rewarding things you can do. They are eager to try new things and take them to the next step.
Hay Kare, I would be getting over there more, but man am I busy.
Kare
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2007-11-04, 5:13pm
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You guys should try to get Nancy Tobey to teach at a local shop. She's amazing, and well worth the cost of her class!
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2007-11-04, 7:23pm
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Thanks for the kind words
Lori - not sure if I can do both WC and LE and work 10-12 hrs day. The WC folks are getting ready to move the tutorials once they are in their new home I'll put the link over here. At least that would be a start. Or I can Partner with someone here and we could help each other.
Lori L - Thanks!
Val - Thanks. I just started with boro earlier this year. Not sure you would say that if you had seen the fish I just tried (LOL). I think it will end up posted for "Fugly Friday" on WC, then find a home under a plant. I would love to take a class sooooo much but can't until a large project at work is wrapped up (I'm the team chief so I can't take off).
Kare - we miss you!!! Your butterfly is also being used with soft glass 
Dawn - Actually I was going to ask if she would do a tutorial. Several of us are fans. We can't really do a class since at last check we were in 4 countries and 14 states. As soon as I can get my schedule figured out I will be taking a class someplace.
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2007-11-04, 8:02pm
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I can run the newbie thread here if there's interest. I can just coordinate with Kare to get any tutorials up in both places. Do you guys want to do that?
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2007-11-04, 9:46pm
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Dawn You are awesome!!!
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2007-11-04, 9:51pm
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Dawn,
I would love to participate in this.
Bonny
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2007-11-05, 5:57am
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I'd love a newbie thread.... I'm about to start trying boro but really have no idea where to start.. All help would be very much appreciated!
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2007-11-05, 6:18am
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I'd give it a try. And, there's a "Soft Glassers join me for Boro Fridays" thread in the game room. Those folks might participate as well.
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2007-11-05, 7:08am
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Well, I checked over on WC and apparently the ban has been lifted on my account. I had talked to a moderator who posts here and he asked me to consider coming back, and that he would see about them lifting the ban. So, apparently that worked. I'll be glad to help you do whatever you need...
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2007-11-05, 8:35am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cosmo
Well, I checked over on WC and apparently the ban has been lifted on my account. I had talked to a moderator who posts here and he asked me to consider coming back, and that he would see about them lifting the ban. So, apparently that worked. I'll be glad to help you do whatever you need...
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Great!
I'm working on getting the tutorial info we currently have from Kare to be posted in a Boro Tutorial thread here. Then we can open a Boro Newbie thread where we can ask questions and share pics.
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2007-11-05, 8:45am
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I would be willing to do a boro tutorial on something. Not sure what it would be yet, but if you would like me to let me know. I don't Always check WC or here, so you may have to PM me.
Jesse
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2007-11-05, 11:07am
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I would be happy to do tutorials. One of the requirements of my first teacher, back when there was a "glass curtain" and people didn't share, was that I had to agree to "pass it on". That was 30 years ago and I have been doing that ever since.
There is a hearts tutorial here on LE and there is a wire wrapping for vessels on WC. I am in the process of putting together a tutorial on vessels and ornaments blown off the end of a tube, no need to pull points!!! Show interest (setting up the photos for this is a lot of work) by PMing me and I'll finish it and put it up here.
-Don-
PS There are some pictures of making a spinning top on my page on Glassartists.org ("fyrsmith's gallery"). It's not really a tutorial, but it will give you some clues about how it's done.
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2007-11-05, 12:18pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by playingwithfirebeads
Dawn,
I would love to participate in this.
Bonny
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Me, too! Me, too!!
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Originally Posted by fyrsmith
I would be happy to do tutorials. One of the requirements of my first teacher, back when there was a "glass curtain" and people didn't share, was that I had to agree to "pass it on". That was 30 years ago and I have been doing that ever since.
There is a hearts tutorial here on LE and there is a wire wrapping for vessels on WC. I am in the process of putting together a tutorial on vessels and ornaments blown off the end of a tube, no need to pull points!!! Show interest (setting up the photos for this is a lot of work) by PMing me and I'll finish it and put it up here.
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Yes, please finish it Don!! There's a real dearth of boro instruction here. I'm just starting out, and not in an area where any classes or color help are easily accessible, so I'm constantly combing the boro room to see if there is any new info posted that I can build on!
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2007-11-05, 1:11pm
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Boro vessels sounds really cool if it can be done on a MiniCC or such.
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2007-11-05, 1:18pm
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Quote:
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Boro vessels sounds really cool if it can be done on a MiniCC or such.
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I make them on a Minor and concentrators all the time...
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2007-11-05, 2:24pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fyrsmith
I would be happy to do tutorials. One of the requirements of my first teacher, back when there was a "glass curtain" and people didn't share, was that I had to agree to "pass it on". That was 30 years ago and I have been doing that ever since.
There is a hearts tutorial here on LE and there is a wire wrapping for vessels on WC. I am in the process of putting together a tutorial on vessels and ornaments blown off the end of a tube, no need to pull points!!! Show interest (setting up the photos for this is a lot of work) by PMing me and I'll finish it and put it up here.
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Don, I'd love to see the vessels and ornaments tutorial!!
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2007-11-05, 2:44pm
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This is exciting! I know zip about making boro beads at this point but really really want to try and learn
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2007-11-05, 2:47pm
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Don, your heart tutorial is great and I would like you to do the ornament and vessel tutorial.
I have lots to learn and thank you all for your boro tutorials!
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2007-11-05, 7:18pm
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This is great DawnT has the LE boro newbie thread up and running I think we will be better by tapping the knowldege in both LE and WC. And to think I was afraid some one would be offended that I was asking for help over on the WC thread. This is too cool!!
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2007-11-06, 1:45am
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Ok, I will work on a tutorial for tubing blown vessels. Because the larger ones require a special tool:
PIVOTING ROLLER TOOL
I'll work up a simpler technique. It should be ready for the February time slot.
-Don-
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2007-11-06, 4:33am
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I'd be in to doing something for the L.E. forum. I don't go to WC anymore, but I try to check things out here as much as possible. Let me know, I'm sure I can come up with something......
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2007-11-07, 1:13pm
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Don, how does that roller tool work, and how much does it cost? or did you make it yourself?
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2007-11-12, 11:58am
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Brie,
The roller tool is ball bearings on the rods and the whole top section pivots. Actually, I have redesigned it since this picture was taken. It now has adjustable height also. Mine was made from parts in my scrap bin, but I am working up a marketable design and will be selling them (with instructions) as soon as I figure out costs. The advantage of a pivoting roller is that you can use it to center your piece on the tube, center your punty, and it is steadier that my hands when heating a small area for raking or other manipulation.
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