Lampwork Etc.
 
AKDesign

LE Live Chat

Enter Live Chat

No users in chat


Olympic Color Rods

Glacial Art Glass


 

Go Back   Lampwork Etc. > Library > Tips, Techniques, and Questions

Tips, Techniques, and Questions -- Technical questions or tips

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 2016-02-17, 4:21am
tanarele tanarele is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 04, 2016
Posts: 16
Question Looking for blue color like this

Hello, i am going to make replicas of some ancient beads. The biggest problem is matching the colors. Most of archeological finds of blue beads has very beautiful blue color, but when i try to match blues from different manufacturers, it is always something in between of two colors.. and of course, not all palettes of available colors are wisely presented, so i am in a big risk of choosing not the right blue for my work. Maybe someone can give an advise? I add two photos (1 and 2) of one blue, which i need; and the third photo is a different blue. Not much of the color can be seen, sorry, this is very old bead, and not the best photographer (me), the bead is a bit dirty too, but i guess you are able to see this gorgeous color The new colors can be a little brighter than those in my photos, because those now appear darker than they might have been one thousand year ago
Any advise would be a big help.

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 2016-02-17, 6:37am
Teri.p's Avatar
Teri.p Teri.p is offline
FatCat Mama
 
Join Date: Oct 12, 2005
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
Posts: 1,529
Default

My first thought to get the right shade of blue is to use an enamel over clear. A quick google and I found this at Rio Grande: https://www.riogrande.com/Product/th...an-blue/119667 for the first bead. The second looks like medium (or even dark) aqua transparent.

I've been out of the loop for a couple of years, so there very well may be a blue glass I don't know about. Hopefully someone else will chime in. Good luck!
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Once we accept our limits, we go beyond them.
Albert Einstein

Orange Cricket with 10L oxycon and NG
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 2016-02-17, 7:29am
yellowbird's Avatar
yellowbird yellowbird is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 1,229
Default

that is a copper blue

have you looked at electric avenue a cim color?
and transparent dark aqua blue
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 2016-02-17, 8:15pm
MelanieG's Avatar
MelanieG MelanieG is offline
I like to melt things
 
Join Date: Jul 22, 2008
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 2,163
Default

I would go with Effetre Intense Blue, and dilute it with clear a little bit or a lot, depending on the exact shade you want.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=effet...HSrABOMQsAQIGg
__________________
Melanie

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
-
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
-
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 2016-02-17, 11:40pm
Lyssa's Avatar
Lyssa Lyssa is offline
The Harbinger of Cuteness
 
Join Date: Dec 11, 2007
Location: Los Osos, San Luis Obispo County, California
Posts: 1,466
Default

I'd love to chat with you about making replicas. I do medieval reenactment and make replica beads too. Please find me on Facebook and send me a message.
__________________
Aimee Moisa

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
~
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
~
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
#M-191
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 2016-02-18, 5:48pm
tanarele tanarele is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 04, 2016
Posts: 16
Default

Thank you so much for replies!
Teri.p , i am afraid i am still too unprofessional for enamels.. but the color looks very attractive
yellowbird, yes, images of "copper blue" on google looks exactly what i want electric avenue is not transparent color.. Now those old beads have very uneven surface, but still they should be considered as transparent, or, i should say, they WERE transparent before.
MelanieG, by diluting, you mean making transparent bead and then adding this intense blue on top?
Lyssa, i am so glad there are people here who make replicas i wrote to you on facebook (i hope that was you, not sure yet ).

For second bead i will have to try dark aqua and see how it will look.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 2016-02-18, 6:16pm
yellowbird's Avatar
yellowbird yellowbird is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 1,229
Default

did you look at the dark aqua ? it is transparent

you could mix clear and blue avenue
which is what I think Melanie means by diluting.
if you take a rod of clear and 1/2 a rod of blue avenue you might get what you want
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 2016-02-18, 9:19pm
MelanieG's Avatar
MelanieG MelanieG is offline
I like to melt things
 
Join Date: Jul 22, 2008
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 2,163
Default

Yes, I mean 'mix together until blended' by 'diluted'.
__________________
Melanie

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
-
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
-
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 2016-04-06, 10:55am
tanarele tanarele is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 04, 2016
Posts: 16
Default

While searching for the blue color, i found some examples of what i think could be almost the colour i want. It's CIM Pulsar:
http://creationismessy.com/color.aspx?id=51
the only problem with this and other aqua colours is that all of them looks too bright. The only two examples of really rich, saturated, and dark blue i found is Cim Leaky pen or Effetre Mosaic blue: http://melanie-graham.blogspot.lt/20...saic-blue.html
Mosaic blue would be perfect, but i think the character of the colour is completely different from what i am looking for.. Is there any dark transparent aqua/turquoise color, with a saturation/densiness like in Mosaic blue?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 2016-04-06, 4:25pm
Eileen's Avatar
Eileen Eileen is offline
Loving learning
 
Join Date: Oct 11, 2010
Location: Florida
Posts: 11,111
Default

If you find one that is a good match except that it is too dark, you might also try it over a clear core instead of alone.
__________________
My current "hot" fantasy involves a senior discount on glass & tools!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 2016-04-06, 5:12pm
tanarele tanarele is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 04, 2016
Posts: 16
Default

Eileen, yes, there would be no problem if it is too dark. I doubt it could be too dark for me, because the bead i am trying to match is dark enough, or maybe i should say, it is more dense than dark. Two upper photos in my first message. There is a bright flashlight next to the bead, illuminating it. Without flashlight it looks darker, but still intense turquoise blue. I am afraid that this colour will drive me crazy
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 2016-04-06, 5:24pm
Eileen's Avatar
Eileen Eileen is offline
Loving learning
 
Join Date: Oct 11, 2010
Location: Florida
Posts: 11,111
Default

I have heard that Devardi can be a challenge to work with, must preheat, etc. to avoid shocking, but maybe one of their blues is close?
http://www.devardiglass.com/chart.html
and the rods:
http://www.devardiglass.com/glass.htm
__________________
My current "hot" fantasy involves a senior discount on glass & tools!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 2016-04-06, 6:29pm
Larysa's Avatar
Larysa Larysa is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 28, 2016
Posts: 87
Default

May be look in stained glass, some imitate antique colors. They are pretty but not crispy clear.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 2016-04-06, 8:16pm
zen-mom's Avatar
zen-mom zen-mom is offline
"Sinners have soul too"
 
Join Date: Jun 26, 2005
Location: The beachy part of So Cal
Posts: 4,217
Default

Don't leave out that those ancient beads have a tumbled (etched) surface from age. That can change the way a color looks. So what looks too bright when it's shiny and new, may not be if you etch it.
__________________
Donna

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
*
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
*
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
* Me On
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
ancient, archeology, blue color, replica


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 2:31pm.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Your IP: 54.198.212.30