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2014-10-07, 12:37am
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just fume bullet 
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2014-10-07, 5:34am
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I sure do love that. Great job.
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2014-10-07, 12:22pm
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awesome work. keep it up
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2014-10-07, 1:00pm
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gold or silver fume?? it is so wonderful!!!!! silver bullet is the glass, right?
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2014-10-07, 9:26pm
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Bernhard Riegler
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gold or silver fume?? it is so wonderful!!!!! silver bullet is the glass, right?
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It is gold and silver fume. Silver bullet as in glass may exist, but I don't know of it. I call this bullet because of the shape. It is only clear glass with a gold fume at the tip and silver fume at the bottom - but I use a little blue sparkly colour for the bail.
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2014-10-08, 7:03am
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I'll jump in here. I have had problems with 24K gold. Don't know what I am doing wrong. When I swich to gold leaf or 14-18k I seem to get more to stick. I know everyone says to use 24K.
Also there is a document in the Tips and Tricks forum in Facebook that may be of interest https://www.facebook.com/notes/glass...41627342553340
(I guess you have to be signed on to Facebook, not sure if you need to be a member of that group to read it)
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2014-10-08, 12:24pm
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Bernhard Riegler
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could it be that your work piece is not quite hot enough? I have mine just under glow. Never had sticking problems . .
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2014-10-09, 9:24am
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such a coincidence! there is a boro glass called Silver Bullet! what are the chances of that, great. so this is silver and gold fumed on clear??
i have an old 18K ring, can i use that to fume?
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2014-10-09, 12:59pm
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It is INSANE how beautiful that bullet is. My jaw just dropped.
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2014-10-09, 1:53pm
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Bernhard Riegler
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thank you Vitesse6
and Sara, you need 22k or 24k gold - 18k is not pure enough
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2014-10-09, 8:51pm
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Breathtaking, Bernhard. That sums up my thoughts.
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2014-10-10, 4:40am
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Here is some information that might interest.
Fumed Honeycombs
What is amazing to me is all, or most, of the colors are achieved by fuming silver and striking in a certain way.
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2014-10-10, 4:45am
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could it be that your work piece is not quite hot enough? I have mine just under glow. Never had sticking problems . .
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I think you are right. I tried it again an got some results, def pink hues, but the end result was too light. I was trying to keep from going white, which is usually what happens. I have read a gasoline color, with the silver after the gold, is ideal to get the subtle hues.
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2014-10-15, 10:23am
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So my fuming is very intermittant. I either do it too light, not pictured, too heavy - the butterfly, or rarely, just right. I have trouble with the 'too light' vs. 'just right' differenciation.
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2014-10-15, 10:40am
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What clear are you using? The kind of clear plays a big part in what kind of fuming results you get.
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2014-10-15, 11:00am
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What clear are you using? The kind of clear plays a big part in what kind of fuming results you get.
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Not enough, looks good only in full sun.
i like the blue though, wish I knew what i did to get that!
Glasscraft is right by my house so whatever they sell, usually:
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2014-10-15, 11:24am
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Just got the bad news today. The studio space I have been using for the last three years is no more. I rented half my neighbors garage. The insurance inspector came to write a new policy and said that the studio is a fire hazard and the house will not be covered if there is a kiln and propane in the garage. I was hoping that I could torch while my knee was on the mend (Torn tendon). Looks like it might be a while before I can find another place to play. As glass addicts yourselves, I know you know how disappointed I am.
Looking forward to seeing everyone's work. I hope to post mine sometime in the future.
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Maybe try The People Connection
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2014-10-15, 1:15pm
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Not enough, looks good only in full sun.
i like the blue though, wish I knew what i did to get that!
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Throw it back in the kiln for a couple cycles and see what you get.
The blue is from a light fuming of silver. The more you fume the whiter and more opaque it turns.
Simax doesn't react with fume as well as Kimble, but you can sometimes kiln it a few more times and get more out of it.
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2014-10-15, 6:50pm
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Where do you get Kimble?
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2014-10-16, 7:42am
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I used to get it at Mountain Glass. They don't seem to be carrying it any more though, so I'm not sure. I have several cases here so I haven't had to buy any for a long time.
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2014-10-16, 8:51am
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I found this on Amazon. I have Amazon Prime, so no shipping. If anyone in Eugene wants to split a case, PM me.
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2014-10-16, 9:55am
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went on the link to the Kimex site and they say "ships in 1-2 months" for some stuff, glory be, i have had stuff take that long from China when i didn't notice - or could figure out - the source for an order. they must start trolling the beaches for sand when they get the order.
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2014-10-16, 12:33pm
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I have heard about good results from Schott as well. I have not tried it though.
There are several people I know that get good consistent fuming from Simax. I'm not one of them.
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2014-10-16, 1:22pm
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I get excellent results with Simax. With some small adjustments in mix and flame chemistry very much like I used to get with Kimble. Also Simax is readily available and I find the quality and consistency to be the best.
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2014-10-16, 1:41pm
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I get excellent results with Simax. With some small adjustments in mix and flame chemistry very much like I used to get with Kimble. Also Simax is readily available and I find the quality and consistency to be the best.
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I have a good friend who teaches a lot in Japan and he switched to Simax because that's all he can get there. He gets incredible results from Simax. I just haven't messed with it enough to be able to have any luck.
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2014-10-16, 2:19pm
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Bernhard Riegler
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I can only get Schott and Simax - Schott was useless for fuming - the colours are dull. All the fume I do now is Simax and I am happy with the colours I get
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2014-10-16, 4:16pm
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Yeah, I have been told, even with free shipping that $383 price is really high. I thought it was a good deal since Kimble-Chase was charging over $600.
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2014-10-21, 7:59am
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I think I am finally getting the hang of it.
Fuming over Fuming
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2014-10-21, 8:44am
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Yep. Looks like you're getting it.
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2014-10-22, 3:55pm
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Beautiful Ka.
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