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2008-02-15, 2:52pm
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real pins
i have a roll of real pins for dressmaking from my grandmother, i made the dogs on a punti and grabbed the pin with tweezers and heated glass and pushed it in to hot spot pulled out a teeny bit then held my breath till it set up, popped them into a hot oven 968 and annealed an inch an hour then cooled 50 an hour to strain point.
there are on a map at the animal shelter i volunteer at to mark all the states/places our dogs go to.
i have no idea what the pins were made of, they have the tiny heads on them, all metal.
this was done with moretti, it doesnt work with boro without gouging a hole to later epoxy pin in.
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2008-02-15, 5:38pm
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dichromary - Ok, I really like the idea and look of the tacks. very nice work by the way. So does anyone know how to make them look clean again on the back side where the metal is? Can you tumble them ? or just buff them?
dichromary - can you try to buff one of them to see if you can get it clean?
I am sorry that i have not trying this yet....I do not have a set up at home and it is a 30 min drive to get to the studio where i torch.....plus i am not sure if i like their ventalation very much so i try not to so things like this there so i don't poison myself.
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2008-02-28, 2:01pm
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Finally got the Victrolla needles to try ... they are nickel plated steel ... the shape is nice, I made up ten pins they are in the kiln ... will post later with pics when they come out but the steel discoloured pretty good just heating to get the glass to stick maybe polishing them will work ... gaaahhh I hate waiting for new stuff I playing with to come out of the kiln ... I want to know NOW
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2008-02-28, 3:18pm
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Mark - sounds good......can you just pickle steel to make the finish go back to normal? or do you have to polish it off?
I would love to see pictures.
I am still trying to get my torch up and running.....so no glass from me in a while
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2008-02-29, 7:58am
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pics using the victrolla needles (loud size)
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2008-02-29, 9:13am
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Here's my rendition. I got the bases at Home Depot. I think they are made by Ook. They have a full line of picture hangers. I used epoxy to glue them on and really, I couldn't get them off if I tried. I made a full bead and then ground down a flat spot.
Hope this helps a little.
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2008-02-29, 9:15am
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OOh Cynthia - that is VERY cool.
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2008-02-29, 9:20am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by glassactcc
Here's my rendition. I got the bases at Home Depot. I think they are made by Ook. They have a full line of picture hangers. I used epoxy to glue them on and really, I couldn't get them off if I tried. I made a full bead and then ground down a flat spot.
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Very pretty Cynthia. Which epoxy did you use or would any two-part epoxy work?
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2008-02-29, 9:25am
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Mark those are beautiful! How long are the needles?
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2008-02-29, 10:04am
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I used a two part epoxy. Just make sure it says ok for glass!
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Originally Posted by Ari'elle
Very pretty Cynthia. Which epoxy did you use or would any two-part epoxy work?
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2008-02-29, 10:05am
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Thank you Squid!
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2008-02-29, 10:09am
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Nice job
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2008-02-29, 10:10am
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Cynthia those ROCK!! VERY COOL!! I love the floral!
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2008-02-29, 11:04am
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Cynthia - I love the look of those.....so you just ground down a bead until you saw no mandrel mark?
Mark - great job , those are the perfect length.....it also looks like you could clean up the black marks quite easy to make them look more professional.
great job you guys.....i so need to get this studio set up
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2008-02-29, 11:25am
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Woops, I said bead didn't I? Sorry guys. I made a small marble but actually Storm, I guess you could also do what you said.
I like when the push pins seat all the way down onto what you are pinning them too. That's why I make one side flat.
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2008-02-29, 11:28am
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Wow, beautiful!!! When I use 2 part epoxy for glass (I've made miniature kaleidoscopes for years!), I go with "330 2-part Epoxy" - it is crystal clear, and mixes up wonderfully...just thick enough to hold but not run. I have items that were glued over 5 years ago, and still no yellowing or releasing. Just thought I'd add my two cents...
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2008-02-29, 11:59am
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Mark those are beautiful! How long are the needles?
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they are 5/8" long 1/16" thick
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2008-02-29, 12:02pm
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I need more boro stuff
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Those push pins are beautiful.
So are we going to do bulk buys? Anyone? Anyone?
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2008-02-29, 2:35pm
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the victrola needles are available on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/100-NEW-PHONOGRA...QQcmdZViewItem
at $4.50 for 100 I got the 'loud' ones they are thicker
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2008-02-29, 5:42pm
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yeah I think mark found a way better buy....than i did on a different web site.....
so buy from that ebay site if you want victrola needles. (loud size)
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2008-02-29, 5:45pm
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cynthia - I don't know how to make a marble .......i guess i will just make a bead and grind it down.. I wish i could make a marble and know how to do implosions too....no one here can teach me (i don't think) i have watched a few videos but still not sure if i can.
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2008-03-01, 11:42am
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Storm, just make a round bead (or any other shape) on the end of a dipped 1/16th mandrel. Then clean out the hole and glue in the needle, no grinding necessary.
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2008-03-01, 4:03pm
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how about those t pins used in macrame, cut off ?
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2008-03-01, 7:50pm
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Storm, just make a round bead (or any other shape) on the end of a dipped 1/16th mandrel. Then clean out the hole and glue in the needle, no grinding necessary.
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that is a fantastic idea.
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2008-03-02, 12:45am
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how about those t pins used in macrame, cut off ?
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this is exactly what I was thinking!!! I made a few push pin size 'beads' but I don't think 104 raku likes to be encased... too bad they were pretty!!! I just cut the ends off T pins. I did not bother gluing them cuz the beads had cracks in them near the raku....
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2008-03-03, 10:01am
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thats a great idea.....i will have to try that
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2008-03-04, 7:54am
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I haven't read the entire thread but wanted to throw in that the pin ends that are smooth all the way up i.e. don't have a "head" flare at the top (that goes inside the glass) may eventually pull out. Genrally from fusing you put a nub or curl or something that takes up more space at the point it goes into the glass to keep it from pulling out. metal expands and contracts throughout it's life and I have seen hangers on fused stuff pull out if put in without the above mentioned "nub"...just a thought
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2008-03-04, 10:36am
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chrisann you bring up a very valid point and one I too am concerned with, I am and will contine to look for a stainless steel pin/nail with a head that will address this and if I come up with one will post it here.
right now I am putting the pins I have made through freeze cycles bringing them up to room temp and refreezing them to see if these extremes affect the pins and glass I have had one failure so far but that may have more to do with encasing raku frit than anything else, I will contine the cycle and report back in a couple of weeks as to the results.
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2008-03-05, 1:28pm
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sharpen!
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How about making bead on very end of 1/16 mandrel with NO bead release...
And as Wendyki said, just cut off mandrel and sharpen it...
Sure you can anneal it..... I would.
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What about doing this method, then using a cup burr to sharpen the edge? that's assuming you have a dremel or foredom or such. you would have to hold the metal very tightly, not the glass, otherwise it would break off, but a slow speed and a pair of full locking grips or tweezers could take care of that! Another thought is doing a end of mandrel single hole bead and epoxy-ing it to your favored sharp end thingy... just a thought.
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2008-03-05, 3:40pm
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you could always pop it into a bench vice and mushroom the head with a ball pein hammer. Pain in the butt, but better than issuing refunds from angry customers
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