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2012-06-20, 10:37am
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Just a Muggle
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Ivory
K, I am confusing myself. (It really doesn't take much these days). What is really the difference between light ivory and dark ivory? (beside the shade of course)
Monica
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2012-06-20, 2:07pm
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I've wondered that, myself. From the small amounts of each that I have, the dark ivory seems to be more "reactive" with other colors. It also seems to separate a bit when heated a lot, giving you that "organic" look that everyone loves. Sometimes mine separates into pools of opaque/translucent. Is there more?
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2012-06-20, 4:22pm
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Dk webs easier when cooked, but it is really a batch thing. Some light does really well reaction and webbing wise compared to the dk. And some dk has a more maple syrup glaze that is super awesome too. It's like honey smeered through our your bead when you make it makes me happy just thinking about it! Lol
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2012-06-21, 8:18am
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Thanks Laci and Jaci. I guess I was overthinking this. I thought you hade to use one kind with DH another kind for SIS and and so on.
thanks Monica
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2012-06-21, 1:27pm
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I get very confused, too.
So far, I've ordered Dark Ivory with every glass purchase - I use quite a lot of it. But I can't get any of it to go that lovely crackle. I recently bought a so-called Curdled Ivory however it's exactly the same as much of the ordinary DI I already had. Oh well.
Then, I recently bought some Vetro DI, which I've never seen before - it's a pinkish/caramel, smooth and shiny rod, which I can't wait to have a go at. It's lovely in rod form, so hopefully it's yet another option in bead form.
I've kind of given up on trying to sort it all out, and they all live in the same cubbyhole now!
But the little bit of LI I have is different - it's much paler, but I've only got one or two rods of that.
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2012-06-22, 9:22am
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If its not webbing your not getting it hot enough or cooking it long enough. Try taking your curdled ivory make a small bead, put a small stripe of coral and hair thin trail of intense black. Gravity swirl and shape. Squish it a little into a tab shape. Repeat lol. You will see.crazy webbing and cool stuff with the ivory. It's also easy to get the webbing with just a tiny bit of the black or a tiny amount of silver or glass with silver in it. Just trail hair thin wraps onto the ivory and cook it. Let the bead swallow the glass trails. You will still get some great webbing on the ivory. Sometimes a light reduction flame will also aid in getting the surface all messed up especially to fume out the silver in DH glass.
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2012-06-22, 5:35pm
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Jaci, thank you - I started making beads for the first time on my new oxy setup yesterday, and tried it. With a bit of help form some SIS, it sure did its thing
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2012-06-22, 5:39pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by essiemessy
I get very confused, too.
So far, I've ordered Dark Ivory with every glass purchase - I use quite a lot of it. But I can't get any of it to go that lovely crackle. I recently bought a so-called Curdled Ivory however it's exactly the same as much of the ordinary DI I already had. Oh well.
Then, I recently bought some Vetro DI, which I've never seen before - it's a pinkish/caramel, smooth and shiny rod, which I can't wait to have a go at. It's lovely in rod form, so hopefully it's yet another option in bead form.
I've kind of given up on trying to sort it all out, and they all live in the same cubbyhole now!
But the little bit of LI I have is different - it's much paler, but I've only got one or two rods of that.
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I cannot remember, are you on a hothead? I ask as you need to get the glass hot. Any ways, slap some silver glass on top of the dark ivory and watch the magic happen.
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2012-06-22, 5:43pm
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Jacqueline, we must have posted at the same time
See above Wheee!
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2012-06-22, 7:52pm
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Di... are you enjoying the quiet? To me that was the best part of switching from a HH.
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2012-06-22, 8:10pm
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What?
Oh yes indeedy I am. I couldn't believe that it doesn't make a sound. I can bring music into the shed, now! I'll be able to actually hear it
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2012-06-22, 9:53pm
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I had to use noise cancelling headphones with a mp3 player when I was on the HH. It worked really well .
Monica
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2012-06-23, 10:26am
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Curdled vs. Dark: the curdled was a special one-time batch. You can tell true curdled ivory by the sparkles that show in it when you are working it. Frantz has had more dark ivory coming in and still calls it curdled, but there are no sparkles. It's a very nice dark ivory though.
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2012-06-25, 1:23am
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curlding your own ivory !
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2012-06-25, 7:58am
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Oops - forgot to add that I find light ivory to be creamy but not nearly as much variation in the color. Dark ivory is much less predictable and much more reactive. I use a process similar to what Kerry describes and that works well for me too.
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