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2009-12-04, 8:50am
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Cricket or Bobcat
All things being equal, which would you choose? I'm on propane and an M15 oxycon and currently have a Mega Minor that I like a lot. But like all good lampworkaholics, I have an itch to get a second torch.
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2009-12-04, 9:07am
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The Battle of Boro Boro
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Go with the bobcat...I loved mine and it had more than enough juice to do boro jewerly and small sculpture.
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2009-12-04, 10:52am
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I've tried both on an M15, so go with the Bobcat, absolutely!
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2009-12-04, 11:02am
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Bobcat definitely on a M15. . . it's hotter than a Cricket on a 8 lpm oxycon.
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2009-12-04, 11:15am
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If you have enough oxygen, the Bobcat is hotter. If your are limited on your oxygen, the Cricket will allow you to use what oxygen you have to the fullest advantage.
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2009-12-05, 5:21pm
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So you can use a Bobcat on an oxycon? My husband looked at the price difference between the Cricket and the Bobcat and thinks I should go with the Bobcat. Not knowing anything about the torches; he's just seeing the Bobcat as an upgrade over the Cricket and thinking to forestall another torch purchase if I get a Cricket and want to upgrade.
Me, I want to make sure that I can use whatever torch I upgrade to with a minimum of frustration and not get a torch that is too much for me at this time.
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2009-12-05, 6:21pm
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The Bobcat can be used on a single 5 LPM oxygen concentrator. The thing is, the Cricket will be able to give you a more oxidized flame using that same 5 LPM than the Bobcat can. The Bobcat can still get an oxidized flame on 5 LPM, but the Cricket just drags more out of it. The Bobcat is hotter than the Cricket, though, even on 5 LPM.
So, decide what it is you want to do. If you work dichro or reactive glass that needs an oxidized flame a lot, then you might prefer the Cricket (you can still work those glasses on a Bobcat, it's just easier on a Cricket when you only have 5 LPM). If having more heat available is more important to you than having a super-oxidized flame, the you will probably prefer the Bobcat.
Also, think about the future. The Bobcat has a bigger top end flame. So, if you ever increase your oxygen supply, you can get more out of a Bobcat than you could out of a Cricket.
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2009-12-05, 9:17pm
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I have a Respironics Millenium M15, but I'm on a Mega Minor now and never feel like I have as much heat as I'd like. I'm thinking the Bobcat is the way to go. I do work a lot of dichro and silver glass. Thanks again for the advice. 
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2009-12-05, 9:34pm
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I LOVE my Bobcat... it runs great on 2 5 lpm concentrators
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2009-12-05, 10:01pm
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I have a Bobcat and one 5 lpm concentrator. I have no problems getting the silver colors to do their thing. I've never tried a Cricket so I don't know how to compare them.
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2009-12-06, 5:53am
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Will the Bobcat work using natural gas and a concentrator?
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2009-12-07, 8:50am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cswilson53
Will the Bobcat work using natural gas and a concentrator?
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Yes.
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