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2008-07-21, 1:12am
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Going Nutz trying to Photo This Bead!!!! Help!!!
This mushroom bead has a cap that is Pumpkin Dark-Dark (CIM) and a stem that is Vetro Honey Crunch Odd. If I get the stem the right color, the cap is wayyyyy dark (first photo.) If I get the cap the right color, the stem is almost completely washed out (second photo.)
 
I've tried spot metering the stem...then the cap...it doesn't help. Would it work better on a white background? I'd try it, but right now the temptation to throw my camera is so great, I don't dare touch it...or this darned bead! Each time I've taken a custom white balance. My camera is a Fuji FinePix E900. I'm using Manual settings. This is probably an easy thing to do, but I'm such a moron when it comes to photography. I will gladly try any and all suggestions you might toss my way! I would be so grateful for any help at all.... please...
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2008-07-21, 1:25am
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How's this?
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2008-07-21, 7:36am
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Dayum Kevan .. I need to send you all my pink beads .
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2008-07-21, 8:59am
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Here is my crack at it:
Lightened the cap a bit:
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2008-07-21, 10:37am
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Dayum Kevan .. I need to send you all my pink beads .
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Heck. You know what I have found with photo graphing colors that are hard to get the color right? Put a bead in the photo off to the side where you can crop it out later that is the opposite color. That often helps.
I have the hardest time photographing some of the lavender colors. I stick an orange bead off to the side or a green one and it works sometimes. Sometimes not.
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2008-07-21, 5:38pm
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[quote=Kevan;1969388] You know what I have found with photo graphing colors that are hard to get the color right? Put a bead in the photo off to the side where you can crop it out later that is the opposite color. That often helps.
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I used to do the same thing with a red bead off to the side. MAde the blues and purples spot on. 
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2008-07-21, 5:48pm
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I think Kevan has already solved your problem!
Just one thought - your cap is slightly out of focus . . . does your camera have an Aperture Priority setting that allows you to set your aperture to 11 or 16? That will get your entire mushroom in focus.
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2008-07-21, 6:14pm
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Thanks for the advice Kevan , I will try it tomorrow when im fighting my camera .
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2008-07-21, 11:02pm
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I thought I would mention that each of us is going to view this photo only according to the settings on our own monitors (most likely NOT calibrated)...
Unless you have a calibrated monitor or a NEC monitor its still going to be "off"...
I LOVE my NEC!
http://www.necdisplay.com
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2008-07-22, 1:30am
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WOW! HOW did you do that, Kevan?!!! 
I will try the bead off to the side trick, for sure! That's awesome! I never would've thought of that!
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2008-07-22, 1:39am
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Originally Posted by Hayley
I think Kevan has already solved your problem!
Just one thought - your cap is slightly out of focus . . . does your camera have an Aperture Priority setting that allows you to set your aperture to 11 or 16? That will get your entire mushroom in focus.
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Yeah! That's another thing that went wrong the other night. My camera will let me set Aperture Priority to 8. So that's where I leave it (a tip I learned from Kevan in another post.) Usually it works fine. I even looked to make certain my lens was clean and it's pristeen! Man! Maybe the stars were out of alignment that night or something weird! I always set my timer on every shot, too, so I won't get camera shake.
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2008-07-22, 1:48am
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WOW! HOW did you do that, Kevan?!!!
I will try the bead off to the side trick, for sure! That's awesome! I never would've thought of that! |
With Photoshop. I set the black level then dodged in the cap to lighten it and then sharpened it. Feel free to use it, it's your photo. lol
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2008-07-22, 1:48am
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I thought I would mention that each of us is going to view this photo only according to the settings on our own monitors (most likely NOT calibrated)...
Unless you have a calibrated monitor or a NEC monitor its still going to be "off"...
I LOVE my NEC!
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Oh...you are soooo right! And lots of people I know keep their monitor a little bit dark so it doesn't hurt their eyes. Sometimes I turn mine darker when I'm having migraine issues, because bright light can be a trigger for my headaches.
I don't even try messing with photos with my monitor darkened, because that would be stupid...even for me.
My pictures look great on the camera, but real dark on my monitor...even when I don't have it darkened. This monitor is so old, anyway! How does the photo look on your good monitor?
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2008-07-22, 1:59am
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With Photoshop. I set the black level then dodged in the cap to lighten it and then sharpened it. Feel free to use it, it's your photo. lol
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Thanks, Kevan! I might just do that...use the photo I mean. I might even try to approach that dang bead again tomorrow...just in case my camera was temporarily haunted. I need to get my niece over here from Indiana to teach me how to really use the Photoshop LE (Limited Edition) I have. I can't afford the real thing...heck...I stole the version I had from a friend who also hadn't a clue how to use it! The stuff I have learned, I learned here on LE.
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2008-07-22, 2:10pm
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Oh...you are soooo right! And lots of people I know keep their monitor a little bit dark so it doesn't hurt their eyes. Sometimes I turn mine darker when I'm having migraine issues, because bright light can be a trigger for my headaches.
I don't even try messing with photos with my monitor darkened, because that would be stupid...even for me.
My pictures look great on the camera, but real dark on my monitor...even when I don't have it darkened. This monitor is so old, anyway! How does the photo look on your good monitor?
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Hi Raindance ~
It does not look too bad on my end... you might google the "Adobe Gamma Loader" which will give some help for your moniter in general calibration... this is not a "professional" calibrater - but will help. Be sure to match your work space to your moniter if possible...RGB or srgb in your Adobe program. I work srgb for things I post on the web...
I know the cost for a NEC is not cheap, but it has paid for itself in the long run and I am glad to have it...
I will play with your photo a bit later.
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2008-07-23, 1:18am
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Hi Raindance ~
It does not look too bad on my end... you might google the "Adobe Gamma Loader" which will give some help for your moniter in general calibration... this is not a "professional" calibrater - but will help. Be sure to match your work space to your moniter if possible...RGB or srgb in your Adobe program. I work srgb for things I post on the web...
I know the cost for a NEC is not cheap, but it has paid for itself in the long run and I am glad to have it...
I will play with your photo a bit later.
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Awesome! Thanks so much for the info on the Adobe Gamma Loader! My monitor worries have been giving me fits, too!
Also, I'm familiar with NEC monitors, since I used to work in a computer repair and sales place. But since I wasn't a salesperson or a tech, I had no idea that they worked so well for photos. I'll really keep that in mind when I replace this old dinosaur!
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2008-07-25, 8:55pm
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Also, I'm familiar with NEC monitors, since I used to work in a computer repair and sales place. But since I wasn't a salesperson or a tech, I had no idea that they worked so well for photos. I'll really keep that in mind when I replace this old dinosaur!
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There is a NEC out of the box that you can set to your Adobe Photoshop workspace -- sRGB (that's what I use.)
I think it was around $600 - and Best Buy has them... might check there.
Rachelle
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2008-07-27, 3:04pm
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Wooo-hoooo! I did it!
Thanks to everyone who came to my rescue! Kevan! I did the photo trick with the contrasting bead, then when I darkened the stem it didn't gray-out like it did before! See!? 
 
Kevan...If I ever meet you...run...because I'm gonna give you a big bear hug! LOL! 
Thanks again everyone! And Rachelle, I'll take a look at that NEC next time I go to Best Buy! The nearest one is in Springfield, which is 35 miles away...I'm waiting for gas to drop a little more and until I have more items to shop for before I go.
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2008-07-29, 7:43am
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Mendy,
watch THIS tutorial!!
It's a tad on the long side, but make sure to watch it through. (Especially the PhotoShop stuff near the end)!!
Enjoy.
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